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Top 2 pairs OTT multi ways pot

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apollo540419
Joined: 12.03.2011

Hi there,

Please advise how to play 3 streets. OTT should I bet bigger (shoving) and OTR should I check call? Any comment is appreciated.

PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Converted at http://handhistoryconverter.com

Button ($1.16)
Hero (SB) ($1.98)
BB ($2.94)
UTG ($3.99)
MP ($0.61)
CO ($3.14)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J, K
2 folds, CO raises to $0.06, Button calls $0.06, Hero calls $0.05, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.20) J, K, 7 (3 players)
Hero bets $0.14, CO calls $0.14, Button calls $0.14

Turn: ($0.62) 3 (3 players)
Hero bets $0.60, CO calls $0.60, Button calls $0.60

River: ($2.42) A (3 players)
Hero bets $1.18 (All-In), CO calls $1.18, Button calls $0.36 (All-In)

Total pot: $5.14 | Rake: $0.18

Results:

Spoiler

Button had 10, Q (straight, Ace high).
Hero had J, K (two pair, Kings and Jacks).
CO had 5, A (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: Button won $3.38, Hero won $1.58


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Sczcepanik
Joined: 17.01.2009

Against 2, as you are out of position, wouldn't be beneficial to check-raise flop ?
(I would have started it this way)


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sdf256
Joined: 21.07.2016

I would fold preflop.

Once you called, I would not donk OTF, rather x/raise. Then I would shove OTT.

As played I think its hard, but it actually might be an x/fold OTR, because what do they call your 2 huge barrels with? Their possible AK beats you now, AA beats you now. And if they did have a FD, lets say some suited A.. why wouldn't they only check it back now, when they have some non zero showdown value and you've shown a strength by those big barrels? If they would have bet OTR, you don't beat any part of their valuebetting range, so you should fold in my opinion.


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apollo540419
Joined: 12.03.2011

Originally posted by Sczcepanik
Against 2, as you are out of position, wouldn't be beneficial to check-raise flop ?
(I would have started it this way)

Tks Sczcepanik. I'm afraid they will check back and turn card for free. I'm OOP and it's hard to play when another diamond show up.

Originally posted by sdf256
I would fold preflop.

Once you called, I would not donk OTF, rather x/raise. Then I would shove OTT.

As played I think its hard, but it actually might be an x/fold OTR, because what do they call your 2 huge barrels with? Their possible AK beats you now, AA beats you now. And if they did have a FD, lets say some suited A.. why wouldn't they only check it back now, when they have some non zero showdown value and you've shown a strength by those big barrels? If they would have bet OTR, you don't beat any part of their valuebetting range, so you should fold in my opinion.

Tks sdf256. Flop like I mention above. So I think I should shove the turn myself.


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Sunrise1912
Joined: 24.11.2009

I love how you played it. Yes, you can check raise the flop but you risk that nobody bets and they get a free turn card. I would most probably check raise vs a single opponent. In a multiway pot, people tend to bluff less, thus donk could be actually better. Donking with QT, Ace high flush draws and 77 as well in this spot.

Since this is Nl2 i am shoving the river too. Yes, sometimes you will lose to AJ/AK/AA/QT but if they call with A♦:X/AQ/AT you are making money long term. And this is NL2 - which means they will call a lot.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Postflop is probably fine. But I think preflop was sub-optimal.


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