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Ako 3bet pot post flop play

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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

Pre flop was standard play, i don't think good play in mwp just call pre flop AKo in oop.
Post flop i just would had to let and i didn't cbet? I had Kc. I thinking what range which villain push the flop? Three of kind, because he guess i had AA, KK. Or QQ-JJ, AcKc, AcJc?
Villan stats, about 1k hands, 24/18, pre flop 3bet fold 56, flop to fold cbet in 3bet pot 50. Wtsd 29, wonsd 60. Total 3bet 9.1, 4bet total 24.

SB: $10 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $10.15 (101.5 bb)
MP1: $16.86 (168.6 bb)
MP2: $4.55 (45.5 bb)
MP3: $14.01 (140.1 bb)
CO: $14.19 (141.9 bb)
BTN: $10.43 (104.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A♦ K♣
MP1 raises to $0.30, 2 folds, CO calls $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, SB folds, Hero raises to $1.95, MP1 calls $1.65, 2 folds

Flop: ($4.55) 7♠ 8♣ 4♣ (2 players)
Hero bets $2.90, MP1 raises to $14.91 and is all-in,

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Hero folds

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Results: $10.35 pot ($0.47 rake)
Final Board: 7♠ 8♣ 4♣
Hero mucked A♦ K♣ and lost (-$4.85 net)
MP1 mucked and won $9.88 ($5.03 net)


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I think the cbet OTF is not good. I would just check because we are OOP and our hand is crap. If we do cbet and hope villain folds too much vs cbets, I think the sizing should be smaller. Like 1.5$ - 2$.
Now villain opened and called a quite large squeeze. My guess is that he has a lot of pocket pairs in his range. Villain might not fold that much here. And now when you cbet and if he happens to call you put yourself in a situation where you have 6 outs (maybe) and a backdoor flush draw that is not even to the nuts. Then you have to decide what to do OTT. Your options are either recklessly donate more money to his pocket pairs and then not have the balls to ship it OTR to make his TT fold, or then check and let him stab you OTT or OTR and fold. :f_eek:

I think this is a check fold OTF.


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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

Do you really villain fold 1/3 cbet the fold? What can i represent for this board? Almost nothing, just over pairs. I guess villain almost never fold if i cbet 1/3 this board. Any hands, what i represent AcKc or AcQc, maybe AcJc. But you right, check fold maybe the best option micro limit cg in this board.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

The flop sizing doesn't necessarily tell much about your hand. People at the micros are not that aware of the bet sizes and if they tend to overfold a bit, they overfold way too much vs smaller sizings.
As I said in the end, imo this is a check fold. You said that they almost never fold if you cbet 1/3. I say, in that case, they almost never fold vs 60% bet either. So, in that case wouldn't it be less bad to bet smaller and try to hope they fold extremely too much :)
But yea anyway, I wouldn't bet there.

But you right, check fold maybe the best option micro limit cg in this board.

I wouldn't say it is the best option for micros. I would say it is the best option in any case. Actually, at the micros I think cbetting small would be better than in higher stakes. That is because people can call squeezes too loose and they could fold too much vs cbets so we can exploit them by cbetting small.
I checked this with Snowie too and it agrees with the check fold. Snowie represents a bit more balanced strategy that isn't always the best one for the micros.


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Andrepipocado
Joined: 31.01.2018

Originally posted by la55i
I think the cbet OTF is not good. I would just check because we are OOP and our hand is crap. If we do cbet and hope villain folds too much vs cbets, I think the sizing should be smaller. Like 1.5$ - 2$.
Now villain opened and called a quite large squeeze. My guess is that he has a lot of pocket pairs in his range. Villain might not fold that much here. And now when you cbet and if he happens to call you put yourself in a situation where you have 6 outs (maybe) and a backdoor flush draw that is not even to the nuts. Then you have to decide what to do OTT. Your options are either recklessly donate more money to his pocket pairs and then not have the balls to ship it OTR to make his TT fold, or then check and let him stab you OTT or OTR and fold. :f_eek:

I think this is a check fold OTF.

I total agree with this


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