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Build equity calculator for SHORT DECK NL HOLDEM

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The title speaks for itself. Short Deck Holdem is a fast and action packed game already hugely popular in Asia. See the Triton Poker twitch stream for recent Tournament and cash game high stakes action including Ivey and Dwan. Please consider building a calculator for this game


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Is it an advertising!


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Definitely not an advertisement. But I admit it sounds like one the way I wrote it!.


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Cool that you answered. Thanks for the information


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Sounds like an interesting game.
I've played short-deck 5-Card Draw (7-A only, with the 6 added if more than 5 players)

Much higher frequency of trips, but much lower frequency of flushes.
In fact, in the stripped-deck 5-Card Draw game, a flush beats a full house...

VS


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Flush beats full house in Short deck NLHE also. I've read about one variant where sets beat straights also.

The Short Deck 5-Card Draw sounds interesting also.


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Lazza61
Joined: 23.03.2011

6 + Holdem on iPoker network is similar, except it's 6-A.

Sets beat straights and flushes beat full houses.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

So an equity calculator would need to adjust for a variety of rules


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I never heard of this format, but I expect if you would play it and you know the game well you have a decent advantage in this format.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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i made a short deck calculator.. https://shortdeck.gg

this post was like top of google for short deck calculator so figured id share, doesnt seem to be anything else out there... hope not against rules.. enjoy


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Lazza61
Joined: 23.03.2011

Hey dheffx,

Welcome to PokerStrategy.com :welcome:

Nice piece of work. Are you planning to develop it further i.e. support for multiway hands, turn and river runout, etc

I will also move this to our 'Poker Tools' board.

Regards

Laz


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it does already support both multi-way pots, and turn/river. UI design is prob the biggest leak in my programming game... so the buttons/inputs/instructions may not be very clear. There is a + icon for add player, and the board lets you put in up to 5 cards. I'll see if I can improve the UX a bit when i get some more free time.


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krellboy
Joined: 22.09.2018

Cool.


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CptJokerFish
Joined: 06.06.2017

Do you plan to develope also a desktop solution so that it is possible to use the tool offline?


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krellboy
Joined: 22.09.2018

Can I suggest you allow complete enumeration? It is only about 200k with no board and gets much smaller with a board.


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tariq88
Joined: 14.07.2011

Hi, in the calculator the set is shown as trips and straight beats them (in the calculator). This is error.


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krellboy
Joined: 22.09.2018

Originally posted by tariq88
Hi, in the calculator the set is shown as trips and straight beats them (in the calculator). This is error.

It is using the Triton rules. This is not an error.


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Nik1952
Joined: 15.06.2009

There is calculator CombCalc6Plus. He "knows" that set > straight and flush > full house.


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krellboy
Joined: 22.09.2018

Looking at the promotional material (after translating it) it appears to be be fully featured and includes complete enumeration, but it is also $50 and comes from a Russian company that won't offer demos because, according to them, "they are easily hacked". I'd suggest to them that anyone willing to install random Russian shareware is also "easily hacked".

There will be widely available fast 6+ evaluators soon, it is just that the people who have written fast ones aren't writing them for use in public tools. Eventually someone will publish one and then you'll see them rolled into web or user facing tools.


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you're both right. the rules for triton and six plus (as played on ACR) are different regarding trips vs straight. i wrote and pushed an update tonight that exposes both variants in the calculator. i made six plus the new default.


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