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How to identify such a crazy preflop move

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LeHai930
Joined: 02.06.2018

I was stunned after showdown when this guy showed up 78o. His stats are VP:46, PR:24, 3B: 6

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 90 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 11.43, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 35)
SB: 100.5 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 32)
Hero (BB): 105.5 BB
UTG: 272 BB (VPIP: 19.44, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 38)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 45.95, PFR: 24.32, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 38)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♥ K♠

fold, CO raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 8.5 BB, CO calls 5.5 BB

Flop: (17.5 BB, 2 players) 6♠ 7♥ A♣
Hero bets 5.5 BB, CO calls 5.5 BB

Turn: (28.5 BB, 2 players) 8♥
Hero bets 26.5 BB, CO calls 26.5 BB

River: (81.5 BB, 2 players) J♦
Hero bets 65 BB and is all-in, CO calls 59.5 BB and is all-in

Hero shows A♥ K♠ (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 62%, Flop 77%, Turn 18%)
CO shows 8♠ 7♣ (Two Pair, Eights and Sevens)
(Pre 38%, Flop 23%, Turn 82%)
CO wins 193.5 BB


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

You only have 38h on villains though.

3bet bigger pre, 10-11 BB moreover OOP.
Flop ok turn you're betting too big, I'm not even sure I'd bet instead of check/calling.
River you are value cutting yourself.


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Sunrise1912
Joined: 24.11.2009

Make it 10BB preflop. I like the rest. You can size up the flop more and calculate for a turn shove but you decided to go for 3 streets instead with 1/3 flop cbet. Its fine i guess. If he has AT and AQ in his range your shove should be be profitable


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CucumbaMan
Joined: 13.10.2017

Yeah, as others said, use a bigger sizing preflop, 10-12 BB is fine OOP. Otherwise looks well played to me. :f_drink:


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

Originally posted by Sunrise1912
If he has AT and AQ in his range your shove should be be profitable

No it should not, as every other hand of his range is crushing us. That makes a lot of DP-sets-straights you know ^^


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Sunrise1912
Joined: 24.11.2009

Originally posted by MyFloXyBabY

Originally posted by Sunrise1912
If he has AT and AQ in his range your shove should be be profitable

No it should not, as every other hand of his range is crushing us. That makes a lot of DP-sets-straights you know ^^

No he doesnt. Every set raises the turn imo. Straights are 45s (does he have this preflop ?) and 9Ts (if he hit his gutshot so be it). The majority of his range here would be Ax.

to OP. Please do not post results in a hand. It influences the opinions and now people would tell you you didnt play the hand well. It's well played


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

Because at NL2 they are raising every sets and DP turn of course ?
You are ahead of AQ-AT, yahou ! Go for it ! Well, after all you are just behind AJ, A8, A7, A6, 67,78,... not to mention sets and the "so be it" straight (lol). Gl hf.
But well, if we disagree with you it's of course because it so happens that we've seen the showdown and are result oriented. The fact that the showdown doesn't go your way at all is just another argument for you to use then. Pretty neat.


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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

It's not in my style to throw 3 barrels with TPTK against a random player. I just feel like I'm overplaying. I'm most of the times checking on a given street depending on the board, position and so on.
I think the rest has been said.


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MLima1984
Joined: 19.05.2015

I would play the same way. A higher tribet preflop, as mentindo before.


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Andrepipocado
Joined: 31.01.2018

You need info to 3barrel


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RemiRem
Joined: 27.12.2009

do not show results next time


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OrigamiPoker
Joined: 27.10.2018

You gave villain such a good price pre that they can profitably call most of their range ip. That's if they are even that aware of the price being laid for them,87o is a very questionable open to begin with but villain looks recreational. Personally my sizing would be closer to 4x pre 11-12bb's oop with the 3bet and if you can get away with going even larger vs the weaker looking villains then go larger until you find their folding point.


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