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NL5 - post flop action on a bad board

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MLima1984
Joined: 19.05.2015

Another post to check my cbet/post flop action and trying to see if im leaking or playing properly?

Pre seems standard; OTF i get very wet board so i check; OTT despite the awful board the villain checks back to me again so i try a delayed cbet and take the pot (also i have a few outs to get a pair or hit a gutshot); OTR seems standard to me.

What do you guys think?

PokerStars - €0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

BB: €9.16 (183.2 bb)
CO: €5.17 (103.4 bb)
Hero (BTN): €5.04 (100.8 bb)
SB: €5.00 (100 bb)

SB posts €0.02, BB posts €0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.07) Hero has Q♣: K♦:
CO raises to €0.10, Hero raises to €0.30, 2 folds, CO calls €0.20

Flop: (€0.67, 2 players) 9♣: 7♥: 8♦:
CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: (€0.67, 2 players) T♣:
CO checks, Hero bets €0.19, CO calls €0.19

River: (€1.05, 2 players) 2♥:
CO checks, Hero checks

Spoiler

Results: €1.05 pot (€0.05 rake)
Final Board: 9♣: 7♥: 8♦: T♣: 2♥:

CO shows A♠: 9♦:: (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 58%, Flop 75%, Turn 73%)

Hero mucks Q♣: K♦:: (High Card, King)
(Pre 42%, Flop 25%, Turn 27%)

CO wins €1.00


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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

Board is dangerous indeed. But it hits both your range and his range (BTN and CO).
I don't want to be check-raised OTF, so the check OTF seems good to me. Control the pot.
Turn completes hands. QJ, J9, J8, 76, 86. Don't know if 76 or 86 or even J8 calls a 3bet OOP pre but whatever.
Your bet is very small. That's an almost 1/4 pot bet on an extremely wet board. I think any draw / top pair / two pair calls here. And there's a flushdraw available, so basically your bet here does nothing.
87, 98, T9, T8 are probably not going to raise and would've bet OTF.
River is blank and I would consider taking a stab here again after his check. If he has a hand here he will bet imo (maybe the straight with a 6 won't but I think this is not likely). Again, his call OTT to a very small bet basically says nothing about his hand to me.
With a decent bet here you may have FE from top pair, two pair a set or even a bottom straight.


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

Isoraise bigger. 3x is what I'd open first in. With a limper you need to had 1 or 2 BB.

The flop is bad indeed but against a limping range you could still have some FE so a cbet could work, if you make hands like A4 fold it has some merits since you aren't drawing dead versus most of his calling range. Therefore I think the flop is the street to act if you want to bluff/deny equity. If you don't then give up.
(By the way you don't fear being check/raised on that spot zeto, on the contrary you have the good hand with the good flop to bet/fold without regrets.)

I don't like your turn bet for the reason said above. The board is even worse and you don't represent much, I mean fishes that limp from CO probably underestimate the connectivity of the board rather strongly, they play as they feel like and when you check back on the previous street they feel like you're weak and they are close to the showdown so they may want to see if their one pair garbage is good.

So no I'd not try and bluff on the river, I'd be really surprised to see bottom straight, sets or even two pairs fold here zeto.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

The CO is min raising MyFloXyBabY and a 3x 3bet seems fine.
Off course you could call in position as well against a unknown.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

Originally posted by SDK1987
The CO is min raising MyFloXyBabY .

:pcuser:
:spit:

My bad sorry :transpire:
All my previous post is garbage then, I'm really tired today I thought it was a limp at NL10 :facepalm:

So... 3bet totally ok. Flop check too. Turn bet I still don't like it but well, it's meh. River a bluff could work but it's risky so meh again.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

That's no problem. Everyone makes mistakes :f_wink:


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