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NL50 - Hero QQ call open raise from CO in the button

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buiscuil
Joined: 22.01.2013

Preflop, I just call and do not 3Bet because the SB is a reg with a large 3Bet stat and I hope he would try to squeeze. The BB is a fish with >50 VPIP and I hope he will call.

Please comment on what you would have done differently and I would be very interested to hear from someone who would lean towards a fold on the turn.

IPoker, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $86.51 (173 bb)
BB: $77.15 (154.3 bb)
CO: $67.18 (134.4 bb) Hands 235 / VPIP 34 / PFR 26
Hero (BTN): $58.34 (116.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q♠: Q♦:
CO raises to $1.25, Hero calls $1.25, SB calls $1, BB folds

Flop: ($4.25) 4♣: 7♣: 5♣: (3 players)
SB checks, CO bets $2.97, Hero calls $2.97, SB folds

Turn: ($10.19) Q♥: (2 players)
CO bets $8, Hero raises to $20, CO raises to $62.96 and is all-in, Hero calls $34.12

River: ($118.43) 4♦: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:

Spoiler

$118.43 pot ($2.50 rake)
Final Board: 4♣: 7♣: 5♣: Q♥: 4♦:
CO showed A♣: 3♣: and lost (-$58.34 net)
Hero mucked Q♠: Q♦: and won $115.93 ($57.59 net)

On the turn my QQ has 23% equity vs this villain's hand. My required odds to call are 29%. Personally, I like my call because of his range of hands that I beat 44 55 77 KK AA Asxo AQo although some are more likely to just call vs a push. We should also add a few hands that have me beat 36s 68s xxs athough apart from Axs the rest might be rare.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Not cash game player but would tend to 3bet with QQ anyway. If SB is aggro reg he can go for light 4bet some portion of time (classic spot for it after all) and well BB high VPIP fish can make absurd cold calls? At least seeing stuff like that often from fish in tourneys.

Flop mandatory call. In turn either calling again or raise-calling. Raise-folding is absurd line as you have 20% even versus flush. So villain does not need to have often some AcAx, AcXx or lower set which are all in villain range when facing your raise. Though I suppose QQ with club would be more logical call on turn as you have then bluff catcher/value bet for river even if club comes. So playing postflop same way.


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Grossmeiseter
Joined: 15.10.2007

No brainer IMO. Against this Fish i think raising> calling. Folding is Not an Option.


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Grossmeiseter
Joined: 15.10.2007

No brainer IMO. Against this Fish i think raising> calling. Folding is Not an Option.


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AthleticAZ
Joined: 19.09.2009

Against his nut range OTT you have less than 50% equity. Your turn raise is too optimistic. When Villain bets huge 80% OTT, I expect him to be quite strong. I don't expect him to stack off with AQ or KK+ all that often. For this reason you isolate yourself vs stronger hands.

You are IP and can use your positional advantage:
- by calling OTT and play your draw to hit the nuts (you have 10 outs);
- by folding vs big river bet if not improved;
- by checking back for pot control OTR.


Board: 7♣5♣4♣ Q♥
       Equity     Win     Tie
MP2    60.01%  60.01%   0.00% { 77, 55-44, 86s, AcKc, AcQc, KcQc, AcJc, KcJc, QcJc, AcTc, KcTc, QcTc, JcTc, Ac9c, Kc9c, Qc9c, Jc9c, Tc9c, Ac8c, Kc8c, Qc8c, Jc8c, Tc8c, 9c8c, Ac7c, 9c7c, 8c7c, Ac6c, 7c6c, Ac5c, Ac4c, Ac3c, Ac2c }
BB     39.99%  39.99%   0.00% { QdQs }


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AthleticAZ
Joined: 19.09.2009

And yes. Preflop is a must 3bet, because we are 3bet happy in BTN vs CO scenarios and need our strong value hands.


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