I have several doubts on this one. Is it ok to cold call the CO 3bet vs UTG with QQ from the BTN?
Turn it is shove or fold. We will shove river anyway most of the times because his bet OTT is comitting him to the pot, so I decided to shove. Should I fold here?
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I guess calling pre is ok.
OTT I would just call too and then call again OTR. If villain happens to have some bluffs he might continue to bet them OTR. Now you isolate yourself against his value range only.
Pffff I know it's tempting to flat QQ here but if villain isn't totally dumb you're just gonna put yourself into sick spots like this. It will just mostly be unplayable so I'd probably 4bet.
As played it's the worst turn because you were basically hoping for villain to hold JJ-TT (and TT, AK are supposed to stop betting). I don't really see what you are trying to value but then again it's NL2 and I'm not used to theses spots as I wouldn't call pre.
Preflop call is fine you have position, 4bet + shove is also fine.
As la55i said before - call turn to get some value from river bluffs. As played you get called by hands that beat you and fold out the bluffs.
I really dont like a passive stile of play and would rather 4bet pre, i wouldnt shove though.
As played and not knowing the villain i rather fold OTT.
4bet pre is prob what I would do too. With cold calling you basically are setmining which is acceptable vs 2.
Totally agree with La55i: shoving OTT only accomplishes 1 thing: he folds that part of his range you are ahead of. He only calls with hands that beat you.
I would call turn and river ( and be sick when an ace or K shows up).
The more I think about it the more I agree with Lima. They dont have enough bluffs here at NL2. This is going to be AA, KK QQ or JJ most of the times. I know it is nitty but folding is probably the best.
Calling OTT to keep is bluffing range OTR makes all the sense, but there is a slight problem: he has to have bluffs here which I truly doubt he has. Im commited if I call turn, and river could kill my hand on some cards.
About pre-flop. 4bet fold or 4bet shove?
Very hard spot. Thank you all.
Originally posted by zetozinho
The more I think about it the more I agree with Lima. They dont have enough bluffs here at NL2. This is going to be AA, KK QQ or JJ most of the times. I know it is nitty but folding is probably the best.
Calling OTT to keep is bluffing range OTR makes all the sense, but there is a slight problem: he has to have bluffs here which I truly doubt he has. Im commited if I call turn, and river could kill my hand on some cards.
About pre-flop. 4bet fold or 4bet shove?
Very hard spot. Thank you all.
a 4bet shove is too much imo. In my experience only AK-AA-KK call