$22 Turbo series 6max KO/KK stack off with 3rd nut flush ?

koiota1

Joined: 09.12.2017

18.02.2019, 21:50 0

Up to river hand is standart I think ,question is do we stack off in this spot what u think guys ?
For me it is a clear stack off spot everything else id consider very nitty.
In a cash game with deep stacks may be I can find a snap somehow but here not even a chance.
Is it posible villian to have the Ac ...yes it is ..but.its just marginal combos of AcX and 56c we can ignore .Plus there is loads Qx hands in his range and some 2club combos too and he can sometimes semibluff straits , sets and 2pair ..ohh well less likely last ones but ive seen stuff on the low tourneys lol
I think its a stack off spot and thats it lol:f_biggrin::f_biggrin: or may be Im just the biggest donk here :f_biggrin::f_biggrin:

PokerStars, $20 + $2 - Hold'em No Limit - 200/400 (50 ante) - 6 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

UTG: 49,900 (125 bb)
MP: 50,000 (125 bb)
CO (Hero): 51,800 (130 bb)
BU: 49,300 (123 bb)
SB: 49,150 (123 bb)
BB: 49,900 (125 bb)

Pre-Flop: (900) Hero is CO with K♦ K♣
UTG raises to 800, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets to 2,345, 3 players fold, UTG calls 1,545

Flop: (5,590) 8♣ 4♣ A♦ (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: (5,590) 7♣ (2 players)
UTG bets 3,543, Hero calls 3,543

River: (12,676) 2♣ (2 players)
UTG bets 8,887, Hero raises to 19,200, UTG raises to 43,962 (all-in), Hero calls 24,762

Total pot: 100,600

Showdown:
UTG shows J♦ A♣ (a flush, Ace high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 28%, Flop: 91%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)

CO (Hero) shows K♦ K♣ (a flush, King high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 72%, Flop: 9%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

UTG wins 100,600

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ghaleon

Joined: 17.10.2007

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19.02.2019, 04:02 0

Yeah this is really spewy. When you 3bet UTG open it will limit his range quite a bit. Though I would prefer bigger 3bet considering how deep we are. So he can have stuff like JTs, QJs, T9s but those single club hands like QJo should be rare.

If villain has hand like QJ of clubs he is happy on turn but way less so in river. He has to be worried of Kc or Ac in your range but also he would be blocking Jc with his own hand. So how many T high or weaker flushes hero has in his range here? Not many likely. If you had hand like Tc9c or similar that you chose to do light 3bet you would likely cbet flop.

So what I am going for is that even betting river for value here with Q high flush would be thin. Personally I would check-call with it or if betting go for smaller sizing.

So when villain bets on bigger size and shoves river after you raise almost half of your remaining stack he will have nut flush or better practically always. I would just call his river bet. If he had bet small like less than half pot I might try thin small raise and fold to 3bet but mainly calling.

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SDK1987

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19.02.2019, 17:10 0

Seems indeed standard untill the river, but I don'rthink he will ever call or shove with less than the A♣: on the river or you have info of him he could over play weaker flushes.

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koiota1

Joined: 09.12.2017

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19.02.2019, 22:32 0

Thanks guys
ghaleon thanks for the detailed comment much apreciated as always .
yep i do agree up to some point ....and bet sizing is a key answer in this hand i guess agreed :f_thumbsup:,his river bet sizing polarises his hand on a bluff or nutted hand.There is no thin value in his range .
But i still think hero should stack off here and thats y:
Ano most of u gonna say its the wrong frame of mind but its a $22 tournament after all with loads of players and its 6max.
So snapping river here is very nitty to me ,I expect loads of players to stack off here with worse plus there is bounties as well.
In a cash game or a bigger tournament id be calling river may be... but here its been just a few hands I want to see stack for stack.
So confirmed I am the biggest donk here loooool:f_biggrin::f_biggrin::f_biggrin:

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