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Adelardo
Joined: 19.03.2008

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 100.5 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
MP: 180.5 BB (VPIP: 10.53, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 59)
CO: 180.5 BB (VPIP: 22.81, PFR: 14.04, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 59)
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 29.17, PFR: 20.83, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)
Hero (SB): 100.5 BB
BB: 80 BB (VPIP: 17.86, PFR: 17.86, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♣ Q♠

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, BB calls 3 BB, fold

Flop: (9 BB, 2 players) 8♥ A♦ Q♦
Hero bets 5 BB, BB calls 5 BB

Turn: (19 BB, 2 players) J♠
Hero bets 14 BB, BB raises to 71 BB and is all-in

Hero ?

I paied here (and have win the pot). But is it the good decision ?


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Difficult question. You need to win this about 36% of the time. To give you a correct answer we would need to start guessing a range for villain. We might get different results with different guesses, so I would say this is kinda a coin flip.


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marcvz
Joined: 03.04.2012

I would snapcall this at the start at my session and regret it most of the time..
After that 'mistake' I'm able to fold for the rest of the session.
My experience on nl2 is, that you'll run into nuttish hand 90% of the time when turn-reraises are made at nl2.

I think you'll see 9T or KT a lot.
Maybe JJ or 88.. And very rarely AJ..
Assume that nobody makes bluff reraises on the turn unless you have reads/notes that say otherwise.

Be sure you make a note now you saw his hand. That's really valuable in those spots!


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Tricky spot for sure, but I don't expect to many weaker hands that would shove turn and I would make a fold without any reads on him.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

I'm calling to make a note on his hand for future battles.
See this as an investment :mdr:


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

Originally posted by zetozinho
I'm calling to make a note on his hand for future battles.
See this as an investment :mdr:

That's quite how I'd justify it myself
Not sure if it's enough though... :sifflote:


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DrObst
Joined: 18.04.2007

We need 35,4% to break even on this call and I think we dont get there. I assigned a range to villain, containing all the nuts-hands and I threw in 2 combos of QJ, 4 combos of AJ and 3 combos of A8o which already seems a generous assumption to make, and still we are far from where we should be. I am not familiar with the population tendencies on NL-2 and stacksize could indicate, that villain is not the strongest of a player, still I think we should fold here.


Board: A♦Q♦8♥ J♠
       Equity     Win     Tie
SB     26.76%  26.76%   0.00% { AcQs }
BB     73.24%  73.24%   0.00% { 88, KTs, QJs, T9s, KTo, T9o, AhJd, AsJd, AsJh, AsJc, AcJd, AcJh, AcJs, Ah8d, As8d, As8h, As8c, Ac8d, Ac8h, Ac8s }


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Adelardo
Joined: 19.03.2008

The population tendencies on NL-2 are like a rainbow.

There is a mix of tight and large players, goods (better than me) and bads ones. I play tight but be often beat by large players.

I win here (he had QJo) but i loose some big pots with surrealistics calls of opponents up to showdown where the river card make a miracle.


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semiramiRNMD
Joined: 25.10.2009

It's close for me. He is likely a fish and he can have anything. You can see hands like FDs, or even some kind of wired bluffs. He can have AK, AJ, A8, Q8 and other. I think you have 1/3 and you can call, or you can fold. It's like a coin flip. If he was a NL2 reg or weak tight player that's a clear fold, you'll almost always loose.


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timkuy
Joined: 29.01.2009

Yeah, I agree with what's already been said, but then again players do show up with all kinds of randomness on on NL2... however you've got 30+ hands on him so you already know he doesn't play complete random stuff...

Still like the pay-of and make note line though... since I do think the AK's and Q8s perhaps K10 ofsuits could be in his range, I mean really we're just making wild assumptions here...

a fold is def not bad... buuuut I see a call justifiable... IF he shows up with a random hand, you're note will be gold as he's unlikely to change that aspect of his style any time soon.

my two cents.


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Oly0909
Joined: 08.06.2008

I would bet flop bigger, like 7bb. When he shove turn most likely hands are AJ/QJ, less often JJ, KT, so I think we have to call here.
I’m completely exclusing 88, because he didn’t min raise flop :-D


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