$1 KO A5s Value betting Ace no kicker?

savage1981

Joined: 31.05.2010

03.03.2019, 17:53 0

I guess that's the problem with opening up with weak Aces After we get 2 calls on the flop and turn gets checked is there a point in putting a small thin value bet on the river? We might get called by JT, J9, Q9, QT, KT sort of hands, but pretty much all other Aces have us beat.

PokerStars - 15/30 Ante 4 NL - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 61.2 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 12)
SB: 53.3 BB (VPIP: 9.52, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
BB: 33.57 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 12)
Hero (UTG): 44.13 BB
CO: 257.8 BB (VPIP: 75.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)

5 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.17 BB) Hero has 5♣ A♣

Hero raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (10.17 BB, 3 players) T♥ A♠ 8♦
BB checks, Hero bets 5.1 BB, CO calls 5.1 BB, BB calls 5.1 BB

Turn: (25.47 BB, 3 players) 2♦
BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

River: (25.47 BB, 3 players) 9♣
BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

Spoiler

BB shows J♥ K♠ (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 29%, Flop 19%, Turn 10%)
Hero shows 5♣ A♣ (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 48%, Flop 66%, Turn 81%)
CO mucks T♣ J♦ (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 22%, Flop 15%, Turn 10%)
Hero wins 25.47 BB

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SDK1987

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04.03.2019, 08:51 0

Flop bet against 2 players is already thin I think, because you shouldn't get any action of less than a ace I think. Off course against most likely 2 weaker players it could be profitable. The river bet against 2 players is thin as well, but I don't think they would check twice often with an ace and I would try it with a small bet of around 10bb to get a call of a T. Off course you will sometimes lose against a random 2 pair, but that's the risk of the game.

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marcvz

Joined: 03.04.2012

Posts: 127

04.03.2019, 14:41 0

I would check the flop. Call one street if someone gets into us.
As played, I would bet again on the turn tho.. I expect a lot of crappy draws or lower pairs in BB's range because of the odds after CO calls.
CO should worry you, but you can get his Aj, A9-Ax's hands to fold.
And I think QK, QJ, KT etc kinda hands, especially with backdoor flush option, to peel a lot here.

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bookai

Joined: 13.02.2012

Posts: 4,781

04.03.2019, 15:36 0

Originally posted by SDK1987
I don't think they would check twice often with an ace and I would try it with a small bet of around 10bb to get a call of a T.

I am an absolute donk and a marginally profitable player at the micro STTs/MTTs but I can tell you I have made a huge amount of chips based solely on this - especially when there is a flushy board involved. CO is unlikely to hold Ax, for example, or he wouldn't often risk checking back turn. If BB had anything fancy planned for the turn he probably won't check river and risk losing value again. So I'm with SDK and his "born in the 80s poker wisdom"!

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