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Adelardo
Joined: 19.03.2008

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 136.5 BB (VPIP: 28.74, PFR: 18.39, 3Bet Preflop: 5.71, Hands: 87)
Hero (SB): 114.5 BB
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 17.24, PFR: 16.09, 3Bet Preflop: 6.45, Hands: 88)
UTG: 125.5 BB (VPIP: 50.77, PFR: 4.62, 3Bet Preflop: 2.70, Hands: 69)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 31.93, PFR: 19.88, 3Bet Preflop: 3.39, Hands: 170)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K♥ K♠

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, BTN raises to 4 BB, Hero raises to 14 BB, fold, UTG calls 13 BB, fold

Flop: (33 BB, 2 players) A♠ 6♣ A♣
Hero bets 15 BB, UTG raises to 30 BB, Hero calls 15 BB

Turn: (93 BB, 2 players) K♦
Hero bets 70.5 BB and is all-in

I think pushing here is the good decision. Isn't it ?


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aaneto12
Joined: 22.03.2018

Hello
pre-flop - I like the bigger size because we have a fish to make a decision, its size is good.

flop - I'd rather leave the KK on range check and cbet 99-JJ sometimes QQ, but I do not find a mistake cbet flop KK but we have better pocket pairs for cbet. we do not have kc this helps. he seems to be a whale for this small sample. i think it has a lot Ax, 3c 66, some FDs and
and may have some small PPs that raise because he knows that the board blocks us the Ax. we have good potodds for give call.

turn - we have play in check/call check/raise... not can is donk bet this turn... against a good player we will get very faceup and against a bad player he fold the bluffs and can fold some more hands that could have us value bet in this turn.


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Adelardo
Joined: 19.03.2008

We were both commited at turn.

I betted here for value against an ace and to protect kings.


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aaneto12
Joined: 22.03.2018

You do not need any protection... he have 81,5bb back... in 2 good outs you have hit 1 and donk turn all in, he has 81.5bb back ... he can fold a lot ... the best would be to check for him to bet for bluff or for value and your raise all -in ....


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Adelardo
Joined: 19.03.2008

I am beating any hands except AA, 66 and A6. I think he would push preflop with aces and didn't call with A6. But he could have many Ax.

If i bet half the pot and he push, have I to fold ?


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zerocold77
Joined: 19.02.2019

I think cbet OTF is a bad idea. You should check/call or give-up OTF. Ax is on the range of the villain, and 3Bet Preflop: 2.70 is very low I think who player plays 50% (loose) of hands. However you should give him an A.
You should check/raise or check/call OTT, not open shove. 3bet OTF of villain is very strong because 3bet factor and AA6 on the flop.
OTF is better in this situation check/call to control pot size or give up simply.
OTT shove is not bad at all instead facts occurred previously.
My deciosion OTF is fold anyway after check.
Take care of 3bet OTF for loose players is this situation.


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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

Limp call pre and min-raise OTF. Seems fishy.
KK should be aheah OTF a decent amount of the times. After the raise from the fish I'm not so sure, but still we beat some hands.
Probably check/call more often than bet/call.
Turn donk shove is not the best imo because:
- You are playing face up. You have Ax, even AA or KK.
- You look like "I really hope you have Ax".
- You don't need protection. Your hand is a monster, you're commited, which means you are calling a shove either OTT or OTR.
That said, I'm check-raising shove here.


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GaspodeWD
Joined: 17.02.2019

Personally wouldn't cbet flop. But go check/call.

Agree with the rest that a donk makes to too obvious what you are playing. I'd check and give him room to bet. If you are afraid of missing value if it checks through you can always go for a value bet on the river. But you'll have less people calling your to no than you'd get betting if you check. Especially Ax and even more so with weak Ax .

As for protection.. Not needed


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