(KJ BB) vs UTG or - > Raise on turn

What was the plan with the donk?

It's a pretty good looking board for a UTG range so you could expect a cbet from UTG even if they missed or only caught a draw. I would check/call.

OTT - If hadn't donked would probably have gone check/call again depending on his bet size. Still holding top pair and any cards with better kickers now have two pair. But they could still just be holding a Ax. You also still have a draw to a straight, so would be inclined to call to mid size bet, maybe 50/60% pot?

As played against the raise i would fold. You have an open ender but getting a 9 would still give you the wrong end if they hold AJ. Could also be that they are holding AsXs and now picked up a flush draw as well, so some of your outs are dirty. So looking at maybe 10%, with pot odds 32% (?).

Preflop this is a very good squeezing hand from the SB.
If you don't check/call flop, at least do it OTT. That card is not good.
If you still want to donk here, when you get raised you have to shove to make it legit, which means turning your hand into a bluff.
Donk, donk/fold is probably the worst line here.

Nice, I like donk,donk, shuv..! otherwise check/call turn, GaspodeWD you said call 50-60% u mean we should fold 2/3 pot and bigger here? Intuitively, seems very tight.

Originally posted by timkuy
Nice, I like donk,donk, shuv..! otherwise check/call turn, GaspodeWD you said call 50-60% u mean we should fold 2/3 pot and bigger here? Intuitively, seems very tight.

That's my guess yea. Could be tight, my post flop sizing still isn't great. But could just be what I am use to seeing in NL5 (NL10 could be different) but I rarely see much above half pot, a few pot size and hardly any overbets. So started to respect 60% maybe too much?

I too certainly agree that KJs is a brilliant squeezing hand p/f. I think donking OTF doesn't really make sense especially when you then b/f turn. x/c flop and turn and evaluate river as you could be folding the best hand here a lot of the time on the turn..

Originally posted by zetozinho
Preflop this is a very good squeezing hand from the SB.
If you don't check/call flop, at least do it OTT. That card is not good.
If you still want to donk here, when you get raised you have to shove to make it legit, which means turning your hand into a bluff.
Donk, donk/fold is probably the worst line here.

what do you mean on OTT? (spanish is my language)

Thanks to all, now i see, probable x/c flop and revaluate on turn is the best line i think.

OTT stands for "on the turn". Apply the idea for the flop and the river too.

Definitely good spot to squeeze pre. Donk flop is not prefferable but also not a huge leak, if you have a better hand than its good to charge other villains. Turn is definitely not a donk.

Calling with KJh from SB vs an UTG open for 3 way OOP not even closing the action is called loosing game! Squeeze is bad too, but still better than calling. So this is an easy snap fold with the highest EV:)

Post flop is also awful as played, you can x/c twice. But we weren't be there at the 1st place is we simply did Fold PRF:)

Originally posted by vengeance77
Calling with KJh from SB vs an UTG open for 3 way OOP not even closing the action is called loosing game! Squeeze is bad too, but still better than calling. So this is an easy snap fold with the highest EV:)

Post flop is also awful as played, you can x/c twice. But we weren't be there at the 1st place is we simply did Fold PRF:)

Very clear and now you are saying.... its easy to see.

Thank you!