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(FR) KK - overpair vs donk pot size OTT + overshove OTR

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pguest
Joined: 01.04.2009

I'm not proud of this hand. When I think about stack to pot ratio and the info that I recall about villain, I believe I had to find a fold at some street...
I'm aware it is profitable to play against maniacs over the long run, but, sometimes, it is just f. hard.

Well, villain was a maniac based on his stats (AF of 4 for a guy that plays a lot of hands). I saw him donking/betting pot size when he hit a trips OTR (twice in that session).
Unfortunately, I don't recall his behavioral patterns during the other streets and specially regarding overbets.

Question below.

$0.05 NL - Holdem - 9 players

MP+1: 127.8 BB (VPIP: 21.74, PFR: 17.39, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 23)
MP+2: 448.4 BB (VPIP: 58.43, PFR: 28.09, 3Bet Preflop: 15.15, Hands: 89)
Hero (CO): 157.8 BB
BTN: 98.6 BB (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 28)
SB: 155.2 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 2.78, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 36)
BB: 100.6 BB (VPIP: 29.17, PFR: 6.25, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 96)
UTG: 108.2 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 4)
UTG+1: 190 BB (VPIP: 40.63, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 6.45, Hands: 64)
MP: 72.6 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K♦ K♣

fold, fold, fold, fold, MP+2 raises to 3.4 BB, Hero raises to 9.8 BB, fold, fold, fold, MP+2 calls 6.4 BB

Flop: (21 BB, 2 players) 6♥ 3♦ T♣
MP+2 checks, Hero bets 10 BB, MP+2 calls 10 BB

Turn: (41 BB, 2 players) 4♥
MP+2 bets 39 BB, Hero calls 39 BB
Thoughts and questions:

Spoiler

when he donked pot size, in an apparently blank, my thought was: or he has a weird str8 (52s, 75s) or a weird 2pair (T6s, 43s, 64s). For some reason, I didn't believe he could have a set, but I couldn't let my hand go so easily.

River: (119 BB, 2 players) Q♠
MP+2 bets 389.6 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 99 BB and is all-in
Thoughts and questions:

Spoiler

when he did this, I thought:
- WTF? Does this f. bastard have QT? It doesn't make sense. Does it have QQ? TT? But why has he donked the flop that big? Is he trying to bluff me off the hand?
But I called anyway :f_rolleyes::f_cry:
99% of times that I recall calling an overbet, OTR, I was crushed

Spoiler

MP+2 shows 9♠ A♣ (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 29%, Flop 14%, Turn 7%)
Hero wins 301.2 BB


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semiramiRNMD
Joined: 25.10.2009

I would 3-b more. You are deep and he will call, 13 or 14 looks good. Unless an ace comes at asome point i will never fold. You played just fine. I like the call OTT. You give him the opportunity to donate his stack OTR. If he wins thats OK think about it as "feeding the fish, so it grows larger".


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MLima1984
Joined: 19.05.2015

I also would 3bet larger.
I guess you lost the hand, but if he is angro and tries to win everyhand Im going all the way.
I would say a random straight or more probably a set/twopair.

Feediing the fish sucks xD


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