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(FR) QQ overpair vs check/raise turn

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pguest
Joined: 01.04.2009

Standard?
Neither reads or stats.

Questions below.

$0.05 NL - Holdem - 8 players

MP: 28.8 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
Hero (MP+1): 113 BB
CO: 114.4 BB (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 23.08, 3Bet Preflop: 66.67, Hands: 14)
BTN: 38 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
SB: 95.2 BB (VPIP: 6.25, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
BB: 30 BB (VPIP: 13.33, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
UTG: 30 BB (VPIP: 46.15, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 13)
UTG+1: 23.6 BB (VPIP: 31.25, PFR: 6.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q♦ Q♣

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (12.4 BB, 4 players) 6♦ 3♦ J♠
BB checks, Hero bets 7.8 BB, fold, BTN calls 7.8 BB, BB calls 7.8 BB

Turn: (35.8 BB, 3 players) T♥
BB checks, Hero bets 17.2 BB, fold, BB raises to 19.2 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 2 BB
Thoughts and questions:

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I don't want to give any freecard OTT and I don't see myself folding for that small check/raise, so...

River: (74.2 BB, 2 players) 8♥

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BB shows J♣ T♦ (Two Pair, Jacks and Tens)
(Pre 13%, Flop 18%, Turn 82%)
BB wins 70.6 BB


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DarkTunnel
Joined: 14.08.2013

Super standard like this.

If you think your opponents are calling stations maybe it is worth pushing on the flop as you are 27BB effective.

A good argument for this is that some turn cards can be scary for them, and you lose value. E.g in this spot if villain has something like 99 then he most likely call a shove, but if the turn is a Q, K or A it is possible he will fold.


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semiramiRNMD
Joined: 25.10.2009

You are not 27BB effective OTF, you are covered by CO, so you can't shove. Of course I agree that the hand is super standard.


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DarkTunnel
Joined: 14.08.2013

Ohh no I missed that just saw now that we are four way not three way. In this case shove is obviously out of consideration.


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