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potyka007
Joined: 01.09.2007

Hi,

I think flop push is better 3 way.

After just call on flop, is there other option than river call?

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $11.65 (233 bb)
BB: $6.59 (131.8 bb)
UTG: $28.52 (570.4 bb)
MP: $5.73 (114.6 bb)
Hero (CO): $5.92 (118.4 bb)
BTN: $3.72 (74.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q♣: 9♦: 8♣: K♥:
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BTN calls $0.15, SB calls $0.13, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.60) J♠: T♦: 6♥: (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, BTN calls $0.50, SB folds, BB raises to $2.58, Hero calls $2.08, BTN raises to $3.57, BB calls $0.99, Hero calls $0.99

Turn: ($11.31) J♦: (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($11.31) 7♠: (3 players)
BB bets $2.87 and is all-in, Hero calls $2.20 and is all-in

Results: $15.71 pot ($0.61 rake)
Final Board: J♠: T♦: 6♥: J♦: 7♠:


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

What is BB's range when he raises flop?


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potyka007
Joined: 01.09.2007

JJxx, TTxx,
66 is not to strong to c/r
I block straight draws, and board is very dry


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Mascherano95
Joined: 09.10.2010

Hero calls $2.08 ...

Call is bad, yes. You have a 20/14 wrap! This hand has a coinflip vs. Set and is dominating any made hand weaker than set and any draw but the 13-wrap, which is blocked by your whole-cards and also hard to hit as villain would need a specific 3-card combo ( :Ax::Kx::Qx: ). I am sure BB would raise more than just sets. You miss to raise 4 value.

BB has a wide range here due to juicy pot odds given to him pre. The river spot could have been avoided by raising flop and it is ugly as he easily can have a full now but you are committed I'd say.


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potyka007
Joined: 01.09.2007

I think this hand play well in mw pot. I dont worry if Bu not fold.
2nd call was necessery, I could not push.


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efkay
Joined: 25.03.2005

not sure if we really need to call river for >50bb: Either we loose or split and if we catch those one of ten times where BB is behind then we will pretty sure loose it vs BU who is all in on flop.

but yes, GII on the flop you have hitted the dream scenario with your double gapper


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Mascherano95
Joined: 09.10.2010

2nd call was necessery, I could not push

true I corrected that. but the first action is a clear raise.
I saw gto sometimes slowplaying here to trap weaker draws but 3-way there is also foldequity and no need to balance your range in this spot imo.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

If BB's range is set, it's a clear call. He can't fold on any turns, but you can. So EV of a call is higher than EV of a shove.

If you can't put him on solely sets, and therefore you can't fold any turns, just shove.

It's an important concept in these kind of situations, where opponents range is very defined (doable at small stakes). He is going to go allin on any turn. If you call flop and get it in on any turn, the outcome is exactly same as shoving flop. But if you can fold (and save money) on at least one turn, EV of a call becomes higher.


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Mascherano95
Joined: 09.10.2010

I primarily raise when I have 50% or more Equity guaranteed.

Tbh I dont understand calling. If the turn pairs, u are still committed (like otr) so you dont gain anything by calling but lose potential FE.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

You are not committed, if you have 0% equity vs his range. And if his range is sets, you have 0 FE with a raise. I will explain this in a video tomorrow.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

Streaming the video live, starting in 15min (17.30 CET) in case someone is interested. https://www.twitch.tv/kyyberi


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Mascherano95
Joined: 09.10.2010

I dont assume hero has 0% Equity. what about trips.

Sets only is not range a normal human player has here. Even 8/6 nits do bluff sometimes.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

When he c-raises on that board versus cbet and a call, what bluffs does he have in his range? In above video I explain how it's all about the range you give to opp. If you think he has non-JT+ hand often enough, shove. If you think he has JT+ often enough, call.


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