Is it ok to go all in SB vs BB with 10BB left and tournament is already ITM ?
Just curious, cauze i have been lately lose a lot, most of this situations.
Its just that if somebody have 2 cards higher than 5, there is so many outs to help them out.
Is this a leak ? Or i should keep pushing and wait for upswing, or begin to be more tight ?
Thank you.
No just SB vs BB.
So its correct move ? 10BB, big antes, ITM.
All in all the way ?
Yup any pocket is clearly +EV. Even up to somewhat over 20bb its fine option to shove assuming there are antes in play.
Originally posted by NextLevel
No just SB vs BB.
So its correct move ? 10BB, big antes, ITM.
All in all the way ?
For sure
In that stage and with that stack i would probably even shove ffrom the button as well with those hands. Even if you are up against 2 overcards you are still a slight favorite... With 10BB ITM i would take a shot aat sppots like this. You already cashed, but you need to put yoour whole stack at stake anyway within just a few hands...
Originally posted by NextLevel
Is it ok to go all in SB vs BB with 10BB left and tournament is already ITM ?
Just curious, cauze i have been lately lose a lot, most of this situations.
Its just that if somebody have 2 cards higher than 5, there is so many outs to help them out.
Is this a leak ? Or i should keep pushing and wait for upswing, or begin to be more tight ?
Thank you.
I play cash game but have MTT experience. Yes 100% any pair is a shove @10bb SB versus BB. You can also shove from mid position in an unopened pot with any pair.
Had to make this post to clear above BS post from messing anyone's mind...
Lets say we are in 6max mtt with 10% ante and no ICM concerns. What BB calling range make 10bb SB shove unprofitable? Think about answer and then check spoiler below:
Spoiler
Its just basic math that shoving 55 is always plus ev with 10bb from SB in most spots. Below is graph from HRC with profit on Y axis and BB calling range on X axis.

So no matter of BB calling range we make at least 1.7 big blind profit in EV. Which means almost 20% for our stack. As you can see villan calling just 20% is worst option. When range widens there start to be more hands that 55 is dominating increasing profit. If this is spot you want to evade from taking then pray for really hot deck on future spots or be ready to dry out in few orbits from blinds and antes. Passiveness and tightness especially in short stack poker will end up in lot of min/small cashes and make deep runs way less likely.
OTOH --
We're ITM -- but in the lowest tier.
We are about halfway to the next tier
Everyone behind me covers me:
If 1 caller we're flipping
If > 1 caller pretty much dead
Pacific Poker - 3000/6000 Ante 1200 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BB: 45,480
UTG: 67,601
UTG+1: 30,505
MP: 28,366
MP+1: 67,689
MP+2: 9,367
Hero (CO): 27,824
BTN: 65,193
SB: 29,148
9 players post ante of 1,200, SB posts SB 3,000, BB posts BB 6,000
Pre Flop: (pot: 19,800) Hero has 2♥:2♦:
fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 26,624 and is all-in, fold, SB raises to 27,948 and is all-in, fold
Flop: (70,048, 2 players) 8♣:7♣:K♦:
Turn: (70,048, 2 players) Q♣:
River: (70,048, 2 players) J♦:
Hero shows 2♥:2♦: (One Pair, Twos)
(Pre 50%, Flop 70%, Turn 77%)
SB shows J♥:A♥: (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 50%, Flop 30%, Turn 23%)
SB wins 70,048