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maniac
Joined: 29.03.2006
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hi,

feels readless like a spew.

iPoker - 20/40 NL (3 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

SB: 1,100 (27.5 bb)
Hero (BB): 400 (10 bb)

2 players post ante of 5, SB posts 20, Hero posts BB 40

Pre Flop: (pot: 70) Hero has 8♥: 9♥:
SB calls 20, Hero checks

Flop: (90, 2 players) J♠: 8♦: 6♥:
Hero checks, SB bets 40, Hero raises to 355, SB calls 315

Turn: (800, 2 players) J♥:

River: (800, 2 players) A♠:

Spoiler

Results: 800 pot (0 rake)
Final Board: J♠: 8♦: 6♥: J♥: A♠:

SB shows J♣: K♥:: (Three of a Kind, Jacks)
(Pre 61%, Flop 73%, Turn 82%)

Hero mucks 8♥: 9♥:: (Two Pair, Jacks and Eights)
(Pre 39%, Flop 27%, Turn 18%)

SB wins 800


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008
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A little bit, but most of the time I would shove 98s pre-flop for 10bb against a limp.
On flop I would most likely just call and her-evaluete the turn with middle pair and backdoor flush draw. In the end it would go on turn most of the time.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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yeah, that flop raise defo feels like a spew

you gotta understand, that villains dont usually cbet in limped pots as much as we do... that is the first thing

another thing is - what is your thought process behind the raising? you think he is stacking off w BP? do u even think he bets that otf?


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007
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If you have like 200 or so on flop you can just shove it to deny some equity but now we are bit too deep and call would be better. Prefop shove is fine but check is good option also. I would almost always shove bit smaller sc like 76s as then we can get lot more of better hands to fold and hand tend to be less often dominated.


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Originally posted by ghaleon
If you have like 200 or so on flop you can just shove it to deny some equity

now this is interesting
can you elaborate more on this one? I am really curious, it sounds like an interesting concept I may have overlooked.

how shallow one must be to consider this line, that you suggested?


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007
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Well as I said around 200 would be standard on this spot so if you have stack depth for pot size raise roughly. Point is you can't really fold flop and if we only have like SPR 1 after flop call we can't do that much of call flop and fold turn line either. So if hand is somewhat vulnerable to overcards etc. it can make sense to just commit on flop and hope villain doesn't have better already.


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nice explanation, thank you


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