NL16 6Max, worth the gamble?

I'd consider raising flop.
Turn is a fold, that call is bleeding. Fold is the word, not gamble.

Originally posted by zetozinho
I'd consider raising flop.
Turn is a fold, that call is bleeding. Fold is the word, not gamble.

I think because MP is going to be folding some river cards.

Originally posted by Dr1fter808

Originally posted by zetozinho
I'd consider raising flop.
Turn is a fold, that call is bleeding. Fold is the word, not gamble.

I think because MP is going to be folding some river cards.

??? I don't know what your mean here?

Originally posted by zetozinho
I'd consider raising flop.
Turn is a fold, that call is bleeding. Fold is the word, not gamble.

why is the call bleeding money? we need 4:1 and we are getting 3:1 and are IP, UTG is repping big hand, we have the implied odds to call here don't we? we are blocking the 6's for a straight. If we river a straight it is a 1-liner so it can be somewhat obvious giving us reverse implied odds but some players don't have the discipline to check-fold a big hand on the river not to mention the size of the pot, and we are last to act.

Originally posted by CharlotteD

Originally posted by Dr1fter808

Originally posted by zetozinho
I'd consider raising flop.
Turn is a fold, that call is bleeding. Fold is the word, not gamble.

I think because MP is going to be folding some river cards.

??? I don't know what your mean here?

It means even with a straight on river, you are not always getting all the money.

Originally posted by Casey55

Originally posted by zetozinho
I'd consider raising flop.
Turn is a fold, that call is bleeding. Fold is the word, not gamble.

why is the call bleeding money? we need 4:1 and we are getting 3:1 and are IP, UTG is repping big hand, we have the implied odds to call here don't we? we are blocking the 6's for a straight. If we river a straight it is a 1-liner so it can be somewhat obvious giving us reverse implied odds but some players don't have the discipline to check-fold a big hand on the river not to mention the size of the pot, and we are last to act.

Casey, he did bet close to pot OTT and did cbet OOP vs 2 players on a 345rnb board with his UTG range and his betting again after they both call.
I don't see how we can call here with 66.
Having position is basically irrelevant, he's not slowing down OTR anyway.

Originally posted by zetozinho

Originally posted by Casey55

Originally posted by zetozinho
I'd consider raising flop.
Turn is a fold, that call is bleeding. Fold is the word, not gamble.

why is the call bleeding money? we need 4:1 and we are getting 3:1 and are IP, UTG is repping big hand, we have the implied odds to call here don't we? we are blocking the 6's for a straight. If we river a straight it is a 1-liner so it can be somewhat obvious giving us reverse implied odds but some players don't have the discipline to check-fold a big hand on the river not to mention the size of the pot, and we are last to act.

Casey, he did bet close to pot OTT and did cbet OOP vs 2 players on a 345rnb board with his UTG range and his betting again after they both call.
I don't see how we can call here with 66.
Having position is basically irrelevant, he's not slowing down OTR anyway.

we are drawing to the second nuts, we are blocking other best straight draws,we are being laid 3:1, we need 4:1. The pot is very big when we call and a-lot of players have difficult time check folding over-pairs or sets on the river. IP means everything.

How the player bet on flop and turn is kind of irrelevant when we are realizing our equity and looking at the pot odds. We need to make 25bb on the river to break even, if we hit I think we can win more than that. I don't mind a fold on the turn but you made it seem like a clear cut decision and I don't think it is so. By the way the action went on the river looks +EV to me.

Basically we are drawing to a straight, which would beat all of UTG's range here and it would be difficult for MP to have 76 since we have 66 in our hand, 86 is a gut-shot so that probably doesn't call turn. any 2 or 7 gives us what will be likely the best hand, a 6 on the river maybe gives us best hand as-well but that's another thing.

Originally posted by Casey55
we are drawing to the second nuts, we are blocking other best straight draws,we are being laid 3:1, we need 4:1. The pot is very big when we call and a-lot of players have difficult time check folding over-pairs or sets on the river. IP means everything.

That was my math on this hand as well.