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Harrier88
Joined: 01.05.2012

That's some pretty nice going, considering that we once started at 20 cents. :f_thumbsup:

Impressive stuff. Congrats on the bink too.


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onetimebigtime
Joined: 06.05.2020

weeeeeeee keep binking


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Yup -- it is very gratifying
If you check out my blog post from a few days ago, you can see elements of self-doubt sneaking into my mindset.

Cheers,
VS


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SittingOuts
Joined: 05.05.2010

:f_drink:


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

I have been playing PLO8 cash at $0.01/$0.02, $0.02/$0.05 & $0.05/$0.10 over the past week as I try to clear a $10 bonus I purchased with my "Gold Tokens"
Not going well. I have so far lost a bit more than the $10 I'm trying to clear, and I may not even be able to ever clear it, since 888's bonus policy is incomprehensible.

However today I entered another freeroll and managed to earn a $5.00 ticket, which I'll play later this week.
The tournament pays 200 $5.00 tickets, so you need to really hang in there and not risk your entire stack if you can conceivably "coast" into the money.[1]
Whew! That was close!
At this point, there are 2 players left to the tickets...
Pacific Poker - 6000/12000 Ante 1200 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 152,508
UTG: 6,216
UTG+1: 22,740
MP: 8,743
MP+1: 26,918
MP+2: 15,491
CO: 18,184
BTN: 199,679
Hero (SB): 5,661

9 players post ante of 1,200, Hero posts SB 4,461, BB posts BB 12,000

Pre Flop: (pot: 27,261) Hero has 7♣:T♣:

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 12,000, BB checks

Flop: (39,261, 3 players) A♦:K♣:T♦:
BB checks, BTN bets 39,261, fold

Turn: (39,261, 2 players) 8♣:

River: (39,261, 2 players) 5♥:

BTN shows 3♣:Q♦: (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 54%, Flop 30%, Turn 11%)
Hero shows 7♣:T♣: (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 46%, Flop 70%, Turn 89%)
BTN wins 15,078
Hero wins 24,183

Safely in the button, I wasn't required to play another hand.

[1] I want a t-shirt that says, "Folding my way to victory since 1969"


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010
Update

I just completed Day 1 of the $30K 888Summit Freeroll, with about 2/3 average stack.
This is considerably better that I did last week, but I managed to cash Day 2 anyway.

Day 2 runs Sunday.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010
Ewwwww

I have been slaughtered this week playing PLO8 cash at $0.01/$0.02, $0.02/$0.5 and $0.05/$0.10
Just nothing I could seem to do to get people to fold their crappy draws, and of course, nothing I could do to get them to not hit them.

So I guess I'm back rebuilding...

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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010
Follow-up

I got to thinking (always a dangerous move) that maybe I was playing totally badly.

So I logged into a site I used to play on a lot, and played some $0.05/$0.10 PLO8 just as a test.
In 40 hands I was up 2 BI
Same sort of behaviour, players that chase draws to the river -- only this time they missed frequently enough.

Have a great weekend...
VS


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Muzykkkk
Joined: 05.04.2020

Amaizing


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by Muzykkkk
Amaizing

Thank you!

I played about an hour of PLO8 $0.05/$0.10 and got some good cards and some good runouts, and some good opponents (they fold a lot post-flop) so we recovered 1 BI of the seven we lost last week.

That's a nice-looking uptick at the end of the graph


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Playing cash games is tough.
I've been up and down a lot this week.
For some reason, I got an email that said I could spin for "up to" 150% cashback from yesterday's session.

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This amounted to $0.40 -- so $8 rake in one day?
I was surprised, actually so I checked with PT4 and it shows $8.40

I've never paid much attention to rake before, but maybe I should have?
The giraffe needs some work...

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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010
Crushed!

I played some NL 10 Fast-Fold today, and got brutalized.
QQ < AA
JJ < AA
AA < 74o who flopped two pair.

in the end down 6 BI.
Sick giraffe,

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SittingOuts
Joined: 05.05.2010

ouch, stop running like me! Sucks Mr. wise, go get them next time!


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Ouch that's a pretty brutal run, i really struggle in that format as well albeit a small sample over the years but i seem to get destroyed every time i try and play those games.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Yeah, it was pretty grim.
It would not have been so bad if I had followed my own advice ...
See https://forums.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?postid=3162260#post3162260


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Ye all very good solid advise now just post it to yourself :f_tongue:

The general rule of thumb is to be the opposite.
:diamond: vs passive players, bet your big hands, and get the hell out of Dodge when they play back at you.
:diamond: vs aggro players, let them bet into you (assuming you have a made hand or strong draw)
:diamond: vs tight players, open up your range a bit
:diamond: vs loose players tighten up a bit.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

I have several rules that nightbot posts on my stream.
:diamond:  !rule#1  Don't chase!
:diamond:  !rule#2  Fold yer crap!
:diamond:  !rule#3  No stupid river calls!
:diamond:  !rule#4  don't break pat hands unnecessarily

#4 doesn't really apply to NLHE, but I'm guilty as charged on the other three during that session.
I had selected a number of hands for review, but my mistakes were painfully obvious, and tbh I would be ashamed to post them _cry:


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010
What a Difference a Day Makes

Today my JJ held vs AK, my set mining hit a rich ore vein, and once I had a big stack, my fold equity went sky-high

Yesterday:

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Today:

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Every cloud has a +ev line in :f_thumbsup:


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

I'm wondering if perhaps PLO8 cash is perhaps a bit hi-variance for the purpose of building a bankroll.
Problem is, at least as far as cash games go, it is the one I know best.

Even so, we're clawing our way back up...


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