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NL16 SH JJ - overpair in 4way pot

 
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Laci24
Laci24
Joined: 07.10.2009
Posts: 292
07.12.2020, 06:16

Hi all

Poker Stars, $0.08/$0.16 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

SB: $37.16 (232.3 bb)
BB: $16 (100 bb) - regular
UTG: $16 (100 bb)
MP: $50.42 (315.1 bb) - 5,5k hands, 56/17
CO: $40.40 (252.5 bb) - 319 hands, 52/25/15, WTSD 31, WonSD 35
Hero (BTN): $33.06 (206.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with J♥: J♣:
UTG folds, MP calls $0.16, CO raises to $0.72, Hero calls $0.72, SB folds, BB calls $0.56, MP calls $0.56

It is probaby iso 3bet against the CO. I have seen minopen and 3bb open from him in more situation so I gave more credit to 4,5bb iso. 3bet will be the max EV here?

Flop: ($2.96) T♥: 5♠: 6♣: (4 players)
BB checks, MP checks, CO checks, Hero bets $1.89, BB calls $1.89, MP calls $1.89, CO calls $1.89

Turn: ($10.52) 8♦: (4 players)
BB checks, MP checks, CO checks, Hero bets $3.32, 2 folds, CO calls $3.32

It is interesting. In 4 way I am waiting bet from sets from the reg. So most of the time I have the best hand. And I think that my betsize is sub optimal. I want to weed out these excessive refinements from my game.. I saw that check is ultra week, and somehow I was not brave enough.. :f_frown:

What do you think about his range? It looks like to my JTs, KT, probably AT, T9s, maybe T8s, 98s, 99, 88, 77, A6s, 78s
I think he can call half pot with Tx...

River: ($17.16) 3♥: (2 players)
CO checks, Hero? :thinking:
The biggest question is here. What is the best on the river?

Results:

Spoiler

Hero checks
$17.16 pot ($0.77 rake)
Final Board: T♥: 5♠: 6♣: 8♦: 3♥:
CO showed 9♣: 8♣: and lost (-$5.93 net)
Hero showed J♥: J♣: and won $16.39 ($10.46 net)


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Dr1fter808
Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017
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07.12.2020, 06:44

I think 4pre > flat vs HJ and flat > 4pre vs UTG.

As played, just half pot on river.


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Incog
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Joined: 18.08.2006
Posts: 166
07.12.2020, 08:16

Originally posted by Dr1fter808
I think 4pre > flat vs HJ and flat > 4pre vs UTG.

This! Ur call Pre almost looks like setmining, which is fine in 4way (even in 6max), but JJ is to good I think.

As played, just half pot on river.

I wonder if switching the sizing for turn and river is better (half pot Turn and 1/3 pot river). CO Vpip/Prf is so large that I think he will call u off with TX.


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SDK1987
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Joined: 12.11.2008
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07.12.2020, 14:57

Tough to 4bet with a limp and a iso raise in front of you, but this would be a easy 3bet spot for me :f_wink:

Post-flop kinda standard, but I would Cbet turn at least half pot as well against 3 villains with the intention to go for a thin value bet on the river.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Laci24
Laci24
Joined: 07.10.2009
Posts: 292
07.12.2020, 20:43

I thank you the comments. :f_thumbsup: I need more agression in this type of spot.


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DecMate
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Joined: 25.01.2009
Posts: 1,868
11.12.2020, 11:49

I think calling or 3B here is ok. We're playing deeper and i don't think a 3b is mandatory here.
Flop is fine, 1/2 pot should be fine.
Turn: I like this bet. I think betting bigger is a mistake muti-way. Also think betting half pot is overplaying our hand here, we could easily be behind but don't want to give free equity to 3 players. Turn is WP.
River is close. I'd lean towards betting here, with those stats, all draws brick, and villain showing no aggression on the turn, i think we likely have the best hand. Around half pot i would bet, although it is thin.


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