Probably the best plog in the world

Originally posted by venatici

I think Kyyberi has to narrow his offering to PS.com coachingu, articles, videos.
I see that JNandez is quite popular for PLO players.
If you can speak Polish then there is kinda outdated course "PLO Academy" from which you could get very basics like how SPR affects your play etc.

I cannot find that course on PokerStrategy, nor on Google. Can you help me?

I don't speak Polish btw, but my native language is quite similar, so I understand something (not everything).

Thank you!

Originally posted by Kyyberi
For free preflop:

If you get silver level, there are quite a lot of my plo videos in the video library. Lots of good topics for beginning plo players.

Thank you very much, will check it out!

Originally posted by Axif1

Originally posted by venatici

I think Kyyberi has to narrow his offering to PS.com coachingu, articles, videos.
I see that JNandez is quite popular for PLO players.
If you can speak Polish then there is kinda outdated course "PLO Academy" from which you could get very basics like how SPR affects your play etc.

I cannot find that course on PokerStrategy, nor on Google. Can you help me?

I don't speak Polish btw, but my native language is quite similar, so I understand something (not everything).

Thank you!
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There you go: Akademia PLO

Another rough day. Ended up losing couple of buyins, which is a good result after the suckouts. Someday the run will even out and I will be happy.

Party games are reg fested, but oh boy... Some examples from grinding regs:

3betting K852ss, and when I 3bet after a cold caller decides to 4bet, and then get it in preflop 200bb deep vs. my AAKTds.
Same guy called my flop raise on low board three times with dry AA versus my set, hitting the A every time on the turn or river.
Lost quite many flop all-ins with set versus dry flush draw, even 200bb deep with high SPR. The standard line for regs is to shove any flush draw.
Twice got it in 200bb deep on the turn with top set vs lower set+draw.

Lost all of the above.

And then twice I got nuts+redraw(s), opponent had gutshot on the flop, hits turn for split straight and money goes in. Run it twice on both, split everything.

Tons of EV, not much profits today.
I also checked my Pokerstars results from the latest bonus grind. I had a feeling that I had run terribly, and so it was.

3betting: breakeven
RFI pots: breakeven
AAxx: breakeven

All of those should be profitable, a lot. Especially 3betting as my 3bet range is pretty strong. But as opponents have hit trips, set and everything with really high frequency, those are breakeven. Doesn't require that many miracle hits on the flop, that my profits go to breakeven in short term. But that's good news for me, it would be really hard to keep those breakeven in the long run, as stronger range makes profits even if not played perfectly. It would be more alarming if those were profitable, but still I would lose money.

How bad can you run? That is a question I have seriously thought lately.

When I am looking at my poker runs since I quit my dayjob (in August), I am running about 70 buyins under EV. And on top of that, it seems that I run bad also in card distribution. Those who have watched my streams, have seen that opponents seem to hit miracles quite often. Today in the stream I lost 10buyins, constantly hitting the top of my opponents ranges.

And now I played few minutes at Party (gotta rake $7 for promotion). In that span if 10 minutes, I lost twice with nutboat vs quads, twice flop allin with top set vs naked flush draw, lost both runs in both of them. One buyin was lost when opponent called my flop raise on draw heavy board with bottom set, and I got runner runner trips to pay him off on the river. 2 buyins was lost with 4bet, opponent calling with crappy pocket pair hand and hitting the set. And the last nail was 200bb deep, I got it in on the turn with nuts, opponent had only weak flushdraw that he decided to turn into reraise bluff. Hit it.

In the end, 10 minutes and lost 5 buyins, wondering how it is possible to run this bad for this long.

Oh, also down a lot this month in +EV casino promotions. Like a cherry on the top.

Tide turned for a moment. Second session at night, +8 buyins. It was really fun to play a session without an avalanche of setups and suckouts.

Originally posted by Kyyberi
Tide turned for a moment. Second session at night, +8 buyins. It was really fun to play a session without an avalanche of setups and suckouts.
I think it is the phase of the moon.
Harrier and I both had very deep runs today (he binked his) and I did most satisfyingly well in cash 5-Card Draw and PLO8

It's funny how our minds work.

When running bad: 1240 chars

When running good: 145 chars

I just compared your recent posts.

Anyway, I am exactly the same. When I run bad, I am like - how is this even possible? Is there an end? Truth is, that I might make some questionable plays, too.

And when I run good, I don't even appreciate it, because I take it for granted

Interesting article on the subject here: https://collectivehub.com/2017/05/how-many-good-experiences-finally-outweigh-a-bad-one/

Thing is, that variance does happen. And this is PLO, so I expect variance to be huge. I used to play HU SnG (NLH) and I had quite a few under 100 BI's run. And I expect standard deviation being smaller for HU SnG than 6max PLO. But you can go ahead and use variance calculator: https://www.primedope.com/poker-variance-calculator/

Hard thing is to estimate one's winrate right. Because player is always evolving (or should be).

Anyway, I hope you will manage to turn it around.

Originally posted by Axif1
Anyway, I am exactly the same. When I run bad, I am like - how is this even possible? Is there an end? Truth is, that I might make some questionable plays, too.

And when I run good, I don't even appreciate it, because I take it for granted

It is interesting to notice this in stock market reporting.
The "bulls" can't see an end to an upswing, and the "bears" can't see an end to the downswing.

Worse, the bulls think that the downswing will end "real soon now" and the bears are busy selling short for the inevitable downturn.

Both are examples of a mental game that needs adjustment.

I got brutalized by badugi for well over a month -- no decent cards, and fewer successful draws, so I swore I'd never play it again.
Yesterday I finished 3rd -- erasing nearly 25 tournaments worth of losses.

The difficulty -- for me at least -- is not trying to artificially change how I play when I'm in a downswing, but to play each hand on its own.

When you have negative emotions, the need to ventilate them is bigger than when you have positive emotions. Simple as that.

Lets keep bad beat posts short. Lost 7 buyins in 30min session, 3 buyins when opponent called 4bet with pocket pair and hit set, and 3 buyins when opponent called pot turn with 4-5, leaving river SPR<1. And last one when opponent called turn bet in 3bet pot on Q86Kss board with A633r. I had AAKQ with fd. River 6.

And as no one really likes to read bad beats, this blog might go silent until I have something to post.

Originally posted by Kyyberi
Lets keep bad beat posts short. Lost 7 buyins in 30min session, 3 buyins when opponent called 4bet with pocket pair and hit set, and 3 buyins when opponent called pot turn with 4-5, leaving river SPR<1. And last one when opponent called turn bet in 3bet pot on Q86Kss board with A633r. I had AAKQ with fd. River 6.

And as no one really likes to read bad beats, this blog might go silent until I have something to post.

Maybe post some of the weirder hands rather than just the results.
The bad beats are more interesting then -- we can then feel your pain

Hey Kyyberi,

are you in some PLO group on Discord?

I'd love to talk PLO strategy, but it's god damn hard to find a group with active members. And then, even if I do, almost nobody plays HU ♦

I played some hands vs your friend. I remember you played vs him quite a bit

He was running super hot ♦

Oh and with running bad. I think everybody does it. Everybody hates running bad and everybody whines. I am no different.

Btw, I remember you had to clear the redemption chest like two weeks ago. How many USD did you get for it? And did you get it again? It's huge value.

Do you also play on other sites or just stars? PLO seems to be very popular in Suomi.

Anyway, glgl!

Natume :f_love::f_love::f_love:

Have been getting chests for few months now. Always 40% rakeback, can be played up to 5 times. Went for 1 chest for last two times, both times left a lot to play for the last day/night. Looks like it being the case this time too, lol!

Everyone runs bad, and in PLO you can't avoid 10-30buyin swings. Nothing new about that, not my first nor last downswing. But I know that no one likes to read bad beat posts, unless there is an interesting twist or something. But then when I have those feelings, it helps to write them out. Ventilate a little. I don't want to do that on Discord, so this forum seems to be the best place. But I am not doing it until I sort of "have to". If I would ventilate here every time I get annoyed by the bad run, I would post those almost daily.

Played in streamed PLO100 game yesterday on an unregulated site. Outcome what a shitty scenario, but at least it's an interesting story. Will make a video out of all it as soon as I get my money cashed out (should be on Friday). So stay tuned for some drama!

Another episode of the popular show "Why Ace blocker barrel doesn't work in Small Stakes":

Busy life, no time for PLOg.

Superbowl is one of the two sports events I won't miss. The other one is U20 ice hockey championship. Covid made it impossible to have any big Bowl Parties. So I decided to get a cabin for 3 days, invite couple friends and just drink, eat, having sauna and playing some poker. It was fun, although almost all of my bets missed. We streamed the pregame party from the cabin, and I explained throughly (one hour or so) for the stream, in the sauna, how Bucs could win it. And my tip was to see the first defensive downs. If Tampa played with 2 deep safeties, and could generate pressure with D-line, put all money to Tampa. And that happened in the very first down, and I tried to get my bets in. But internet was crappy, booker sites were laggy, and I was a bit drunk. Couldn't get any bets for Tampa, so my big bet for Chiefs stayed and lost. But it was fun few days for sure!

After that I have been working a little, and now I am doing some night shifts for few days. Haven't streamed a lot since the SuperBowl.

I have tried to play the damn chest at Stars. As usual, there are quite a lot of points for the last day. Again.

Here is the graph of February on my laptop, PLO25 and PLO50 mixed. As soon as I stopped running horribly in 3bet+ pots, things are looking good.

Here is hand of the day:

Originally posted by Kyyberi
What ever the reason was, it was a ballsy move.

My first thought was a Hold'em player who thought he had a full house

Even the it doesn't make sense to donk pot river. Unless he has never played PLO before.

Long time no see. I have been away from poker this week, in a cabin surrounded by piles of snow. Tomorrow it's back on the track, as we have another StreamR homegame at RIO. And if everything goes as planned, I will get keys to my new office too. So far I have been playing and streaming from my garage. Decided to rent an office room, looking forward to move my stuff there this weekend.

It's also nice to see a lot of discussion in the Omaha Forum, keep it up! There are few spots where people have different opinions. That is great for learning, as those are often spots that are hard to model mathematically. So everything is based on estimations and assumptions. Two players can both have different estimations and assumptions, and in the end no one know who is more right than the other. That forces everyone to think and compare different actions/lines, and THAT is the best thing for learning and improving.

Originally posted by Kyyberi
... There are few spots where people have different opinions. That is great for learning, as those are often spots that are hard to model mathematically. So everything is based on estimations and assumptions. Two players can both have different estimations and assumptions, and in the end no one know who is more right than the other. That forces everyone to think and compare different actions/lines, and THAT is the best thing for learning and improving.

Very well said.

Well done with the office it sounds good. Are you going to heat it with your workstation running flop sims 24/7