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[Closed] ICM trainer...Why would you not shove here?

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PocketAcesJohn
Joined: 19.06.2008

A few exarmples...why would you not shove these?

1)

I feel here now that we're ITM and both oppents stacks are twice the size we need to accumilate. We should be gambling abit trying to go for the win. Is it wrong simpley because we have more than 10BB? Despite been wrong is there anything wrong with shoving here?

2)

4 left, short stacked. Less than 10bb left, blinds about to come through us, other 3 stacks in healthy shape...whats wrong with shoving here?


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PocketAcesJohn
Joined: 19.06.2008

Thanks for the help........................................


LuborC
Joined: 20.04.2008

I think I would shove both hands. Kind of close, though.


PocketAcesJohn
Joined: 19.06.2008

Well im glad that you kind of agree with my view that they should be shoved =)


zamoda
Joined: 16.03.2009

Might shove first one, but the second one is a fold for me(blinds too low yet).. too many times blinds call here with Ax and you are dominated. atleast in low stakes...


gavinonymous
Joined: 18.12.2008

Hero edge is set at 8%? does this mean that you need an extra 8% on top of the $EV and FE?


Its a marginal shove.

I'd rely on previous action more than on plain ICM here


UrielSeptim
Joined: 18.07.2007

Both hands are easy folds for me under normal conditions, however, the K7s is a close one.