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JJ in the SB in 4-bet pot.

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Casey55
Joined: 19.07.2010

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

UTG: $2.38 (119 bb)
MP: $2.00 (100 bb)
CO: $3.91 (196 bb)
BU: $2.44 (122 bb)
SB (Hero): $2.86 (143 bb)
BB: $1.83 (92 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero is SB with J J
3 players fold, BTN raises to $0.06, Hero 3-bets to $0.22, BB 4-bets to $0.64, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.42

Flop: ($1.34) 9 Q 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

Turn: ($1.34) K (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.34, Hero calls $0.34

River: ($2.02) K (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.52, SB (Hero) folds

Pre-flop I am getting good pot odds to call, 2:1, I need to have 33% equity and I think I am ahead of AK,AQ , I think TT may also be in villains range if he believes I am weak and just trying to re-steal the pot or make a "move".

On the flop I naturally check, and V checks behind, this is interesting because I believe AQ should be betting the flop, as well as KK, AA. Turn is a bad card for me so I check again. V bets so small I feel like I cannot fold to this sizing even though the K is great for his range. OTR I check again and V bets 25% pot, I am getting great pot odds but I tanked for a while and I can not come up with a hand I am ahead of that he is betting for value. V bets 50c here and I think he left himself 30c behind, why would he not just shove here? I read this as a very strong play desperately trying to get value.


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SamoB25
Joined: 02.10.2009

I wouldn't eliminate AA, KK or QQ on the flop, moreover checking there looks like a setup for later street value betting.

With your reads I would most likely fold the turn already...


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

If you want to fold I would do it on the turn already. On river you get insane good odds to call.
Against some villains a fold pre-flop isn't to crazy ether. You beat AK and maybe TT would 4bet, but that's it what you beat I think, but it's really villian depended.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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miropro
Joined: 01.08.2008

First, I would draw a parallel between your 3-bet sizing when you have JJ and AA. You play JJ stronger than AA preflop.
Second, if you dont know the villains 4-bet range everything is speculation. And you didnt call so we will never know :f_biggrin:
My personal line of play here would be flat call raise and pot bet on the flop if hand is improved or preflop fold after 4-bet vs tight opponent when I am in position. I dont like 3-bet OOP here.
And yes, you are right. AQ, KK, AA, maybe even AK would Cbet that flop. QQ probably wouldn't
I have no clue why didnt he shove on the river. Makes no sense. But that is the magic of NL2 on Stars
What is your nickname at Stars? Maybe we met at the tables :f_cool:

EDIT: sorry I just realised that this is 6-max table. You guys probably always 3bet JJ?


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