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10$ 9-Man Party Turbo SNG - Push/Fold dilemma

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twinny90
Joined: 02.11.2008

Hi,

I shoved A5s utg for 9bb 5 players remaining. On the surface ICMizer shows this as a profitable shove, but when altering players ranges im not so sure. What do you guys think? Should i have shoved here? ICMizers calling ranges for opponents seem very tight. See hand video/history below.

https://www.icmpoker.com/icmizer/#gNBcib

** Hand History For Game 1635801576772g48w9qjeliv **
150/300 Tourney Texas Holdem Game Table (NL) (SNG Tournament #320599091) (Buyin $9.2 + $0.8) - Mon Nov 01 17:19:15 EDT 2021
Table (320599091) Table #1 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 5/9
Seat 3: Player1 (4792)
Seat 5: Player2 (3828)
Seat 6: Player3 (2303)
Seat 8: Hero (1117)
Seat 9: Player5 (1460)
Player1 posts ante (25)
Player2 posts ante (25)
Player3 posts ante (25)
Hero posts ante (25)
Player5 posts ante (25)
Player2 posts small blind (150)
Player3 posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 6c, Td ]
Hero folds
Player5 folds
Player1 folds
Player2 raises 3653 to 3803
Player2 is all-In.
Player3 calls (1978)
Player3 is all-In.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Jh, Th, Ah ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 6d ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 2s ]
Creating Main Pot with 4681 with Player3
** Summary **
Main Pot: 4681
Board: [ Jh, Th, Ah, 6d, 2s ]
Player1 balance 4767, lost 25 (folded)
Player2 balance 1525, bet 3828, collected 1525, lost 2303[ 7d, Ac ] [ a pair of aces -- Ac,Ah,Jh,Th,7d ]
Player3 balance 4681, bet 2303, collected 4681, net +2378[ 8c, As ] [ a pair of aces -- As,Ah,Jh,Th,8c ]
Hero balance 1092, lost 25 (folded)
Player5 balance 1435, lost 25 (folded)


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krys94
Joined: 04.06.2012

partypoker, $9.20 + $0.80 - Hold'em No Limit - 150/300 (25 ante) - 5 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

Hero (UTG): 1,117 (4 bb)
Player5 (CO): 1,460 (5 bb)
Player1 (BU): 4,792 (16 bb)
Player2 (SB): 3,828 (13 bb)
Player3 (BB): 2,303 (8 bb)

Pre-Flop: (575) Hero (Hero) is UTG with 6 T
Hero (UTG) folds, 2 players fold, Player2 (SB) raises to 3,803 (all-in), Player3 (BB) calls 1,978 (all-in)

Flop: (4,681) J T A (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (4,681) 6 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (4,681) 2 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: 4,681

Showdown:
Player2 (SB) shows 7 A (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 34%, Flop: 41%, Turn: 32%, River: 0%)

Player3 (BB) shows 8 A (a pair of Aces - higher kicker)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 66%, Flop: 59%, Turn: 68%, River: 100%)

Player3 (BB) wins 4,681


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Wrong hand perhaps? Link requires registration or something to view it so didn't check it.


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twinny90
Joined: 02.11.2008

Cant seem to upload a screenshot ,
Calling ranges of opponents as per ICMizer :

CO - 7.1%
BTN - 6.6%
SB - 9.5%
BB - 6.7%

Thanks in advance


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twinny90
Joined: 02.11.2008

Sorry wrong hand above here it is

Dealt to Hero [ 5s, As ]
Hero raises 2706 to 2706
Hero is all-In.
Player5 folds
Player1 folds
Player2 calls (1464)
Player2 is all-In.
Player3 folds
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9h, 8s, 6h ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Td ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 9s ]
Creating Main Pot with 3653 with Player2
** Summary **
Main Pot: 3653
Board: [ 9h, 8s, 6h, Td, 9s ]
Player1 balance 4767, lost 25 (folded)
Player2 balance 3653, bet 1639, collected 3653, net +2014[ Qc, Ah ] [ a pair of nines -- Ah,Qc,Td,9h,9s ]
Player3 balance 2553, lost 325 (folded)
Hero balance 1092, bet 2731, collected 1092, lost 1639[ 5s, As ] [ a pair of nines -- As,Td,9h,9s,8s ]
Player5 balance 1435, lost 25 (folded)


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Always include stack size information as well on all players. We have 9bb but SB here only has 5.5bb. Also possible antes make difference. Anyway this SB call is totally fine with such strong holding.

Using some hh converter would be also nice :)

Often in these cases player himself has best understanding what sort of hands pool is calling. So you have tool that allows adjusting them and finding the breakeven point.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Stack information is crucial to give good feedback and I recommend using a hand converter like weaktight next time. Than your hand is better to read here.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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krys94
Joined: 04.06.2012

You can find 10s of Hand Convertors... You just copy that hand what you posted here... and it will spit out another wall of text what you will post on forum...

Google --> Poker Hand Convertor --> any of that first 100s links :f_thumbsup:


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