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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

BTN plays 19/17/4.5 over 100 hands

Does anyone do anything other than fold here?
PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 101.5 BB
UTG: 116.3 BB
MP: 137.2 BB
CO: 115.7 BB
BTN: 100 BB
Hero (SB): 116 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T♣ T♥

fold, MP calls 1 BB, CO raises to 4 BB, BTN raises to 11 BB, Hero???


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Casey55
Joined: 19.07.2010

Depends on opponents, if I think their ranges, if I think UTG can open a bit wide and CO can be 3-betting light I might put in the 4-bet. If I’m not 4-betting I’m folding


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by Casey55
Depends on opponents, if I think their ranges, if I think UTG can open a bit wide and CO can be 3-betting light I might put in the 4-bet. If I’m not 4-betting I’m folding

OK good -- I didn't have enough hands on BTN at the time to really judge his style, but he seemed solid -- tight and aggressive -- so I let it go.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Tricky spot, but out of position without closing the action a fold isn't to bad. You could think of 4bet bluffing here, but villain seems on the tight side with 3betting.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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sandraardnas
Joined: 11.01.2012

4b bluffing with TT? What premium hands do you block?


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Since CO 3Bet vs an MP iso raise, I think I'm going to rule out the 4Bet bluff, especially considering that CO had played solidly to this point.

Even so, although we block nothing, our equity isn't all that bad...

       Equity     Win     Tie
MP2    38.28%  38.08%   0.20% { TT }
MP3    61.72%  61.52%   0.20% { QQ+, AQs+, AKo }

I did fold --


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Casey55
Joined: 19.07.2010

I don’t think it would be a 4-bet bluff, if we think BTN is 3-betting light we can 4-bet for value. The later the positions the wider ranges can be and when someone limps.. CO isolating doesn’t necessarily mean strong range and BTN 3-betting CO can also be wider than the top 5% of hands. Without reads I like the fold but I really strive to focus on players for info, no one likes throwing away good PP lol. nh vorpal, stayed diciplined there.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by Casey55
I don’t think it would be a 4-bet bluff, if we think BTN is 3-betting light we can 4-bet for value. The later the positions the wider ranges can be and when someone limps.. CO isolating doesn’t necessarily mean strong range and BTN 3-betting CO can also be wider than the top 5% of hands. Without reads I like the fold but I really strive to focus on players for info, no one likes throwing away good PP lol. nh vorpal, stayed diciplined there.

Yeah, I agree, but in this case, his stats and previous play suggest otherwise.

If this is a 3Bet bluff on his part, it is well disguised.


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jiffybag
Joined: 21.12.2010

BTN plays 19/17/4.5 over 100 hands

Stats look like the makings of a standard tag. It depends on the CO for me, if CO is a massive fish, and will flat with any 2, then I would be thinking BTN is trying to isolate and his range might be a bit weaker than it normally is in this spot. I'd 4bet with the intention of stacking off with the CO ONLY. Does anyone else think the same?


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by jiffybag
Stats look like the makings of a standard tag. It depends on the CO for me, if CO is a massive fish, and will flat with any 2,

With only 100 hands I don't think it is wise to make judgements about massive fishiness.

I did fold, and I can't remember how it turned out.


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