ATo MP vs UTG Iso - Villain limp/min-raises

Looks fine to me id play the same way a hand like JJ wouldn't surprise me the Q changed villains perception of their hand strength on the river imo.Rather than it being a pure bluff line throughout villain likes their hand pre doesn't like second pair to the Q on flop and turn but likes 2 pair on the river.It could also be some 7x hands albeit possibly with some preflop button clicking but the same kind of idea with villains thinking postflop.

I think that long-term folding pre-flop with this hand in this situation would be more costly.

The only alternative would be to go aggro to fold out PP less than Q, but with opponent's style of play it seems unlikely they would ever find a fold

in my world (and in snowies neither) this is no iso.

Pre-flop seems standard. Offcourse villains min 3bet is suspicious, but tough to fold for those odds.

Post-flop is fine. I don't think you can bluff raise against most likely a fish.

Cheers,
SDK1987

Originally posted by Pokamon
in my world (and in snowies neither) this is no iso.

I believe the problem with using snowie or other gto ranges like a dogma is that they consider you're playing against gto nemesis villain, that will play perfect posflop game making hands like ATo -EV as isoraises.

In reality we're playing against humans that make a lot of mistakes posflop so the EV of ATo as a isoraise increases, especially against a fish limp/calling K2o, 72o, A2o....

Perfect poker doesn't exist ether. I expect against most villains a ATo is profitable. Limping first in isn't to commen by a good player.

it is the rake.

when isoing a recreational, you will almost always the a flop (and pay). therefore the argument is, that the range you iso with, must be stronger than the raise first in range, where you will steal successfully w some % (and dont pay).

So, Co open range is about 28%. If you dont izo Ato, then what is your izo range? 16%? Isnt it a bit too conservative? Can we let the fish bluff us out so often with a simple limp?

And what you mean by "almost always see the flop"? I dont use stats, so maybe you check it please, but I estimate fishpool limp/folds about 20% of hands.