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Talisker74
Joined: 17.08.2009

Hello guys,

i guess it is really good that i made learning before a session as a goal.
I guess that is a think a left out too often in the past.
Even i`m actual "only" just look after basic stuff i noticed for a while it helps me to stabilize my game.

So up to now i`m on track.

Since the restart of the block i reached all my goals, and i try to continue my work.

So, here some basic stuff i actual re read to get it into my brain...

GL at the tables
Slainte
Talisker


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Talisker74
Joined: 17.08.2009

I try to get some more information from you guys....

The money comes from the weaker players, the fun players.
So best is to know how to identify the r ecreationals.

So here some points, which other points can we use to identify weaker players?

- Open Limping
- Effective stack
- Unorthodox bet-sizing both preflop and postflop
- After showdown -> Extreme passivity, agression or stickness
- Stats -> Not reflective of a decent player. Watch out for the "peudo regs". Losing over a decent sample


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by Talisker74
So, here some basic stuff i actual re read to get it into my brain...

That is quite a valuable list.
It has now been stolen by me...


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Talisker74
Joined: 17.08.2009

So well, it is time to have a first short review.
Playing regular tables seems to be more profitable than zoom.
Better possibilities to exploit villains and to use the HUD.

And another important thing:

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but up to now i have an upswing
Learning before starting a session might help as well
let`s see how it will go with a larger sample:

So have fun and make some money on the tables.


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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019
Eduardoooo
Joined: 01.04.2020

This one I have just printed out... Nice work...

Originally posted by Talisker74
Hello guys,

i guess it is really good that i made learning before a session as a goal.
I guess that is a think a left out too often in the past.
Even i`m actual "only" just look after basic stuff i noticed for a while it helps me to stabilize my game.

So up to now i`m on track.

Since the restart of the block i reached all my goals, and i try to continue my work.

So, here some basic stuff i actual re read to get it into my brain...

GL at the tables
Slainte
Talisker


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Talisker74
Joined: 17.08.2009

Hello Guys,

don`t be afraid fish still exists at the table....
Very nice from villain to give me his money with that hand :f_biggrin:

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

CO: $2.73 (136.5 bb)
BTN: $0.97 (48.5 bb)
SB: $3.06 (153 bb)
Hero (BB): $3.17 (158.5 bb)
UTG: $1.17 (58.5 bb)
MP: $2.86 (143 bb)

SB posts $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has K♣: K♦:
UTG raises to $0.06, MP calls $0.06, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.18, UTG calls $0.12, MP raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $0.88, fold, MP calls $0.58

Flop: ($1.95, 2 players) 4♠: 8♥: 9♦:
Hero bets $0.66, MP calls $0.66

Turn: ($3.27, 2 players) 3♦:
Hero bets $1.63 and is all-in, MP calls $1.32 and is all-in

River: ($5.91, 2 players) Q♥:

Results: $5.91 pot ($0.26 rake)
Final Board: 4♠: 8♥: 9♦: 3♦: Q♥:

Hero shows K♣: K♦:: (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 83%, Flop 90%, Turn 100%)

MP shows J♥: 6♥:: (High Card, Queen)
(Pre 17%, Flop 10%, Turn 0%)

Hero wins $5.65


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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019
Talisker74
Joined: 17.08.2009

Yeah today was i nice day....

i guess i will play nl2 this month and than move up....
Everything seem too easy actual, but i know that this will not go on all the way, and nl5 winrate will go down a lot, i guess at least...

session from today....
will not happen again :f_drink:

was very lucky in a hand with AK....

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

CO: $2.85 (142.5 bb)
BTN: $2.04 (102 bb)
SB: $2.00 (100 bb)
BB: $2.87 (143.5 bb)
Hero (UTG): $6.49 (324.5 bb)
MP: $2.12 (106 bb)

SB posts $0.01, BB posts $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has A♠: K♣:
Hero raises to $0.08, 2 folds, BTN raises to $0.14, fold, BB raises to $0.38, Hero raises to $6.49 and is all-in, BTN calls $1.90 and is all-in, BB calls $2.49 and is all-in

Flop: ($7.79, 3 players) 8♠: J♥: T♣:

Turn: ($7.79, 3 players) 3♣:

River: ($7.79, 3 players) A♦:

Results: $7.79 pot ($0.34 rake)
Final Board: 8♠: J♥: T♣: 3♣: A♦:

BB shows K♥: K♦:: (One Pair, Kings)
Main Pot: [$6.13]: (Pre 54%, Flop 50%, Turn 69%)
Side Pot: [$1.66]: (Pre 68%, Flop 70%, Turn 83%)

Hero shows A♠: K♣:: (One Pair, Aces)
Main Pot: [$6.13]: (Pre 26%, Flop 28%, Turn 17%)
Side Pot: [$1.66]: (Pre 32%, Flop 30%, Turn 17%)

BTN shows 9♥: 9♦:: (One Pair, Nines)
Main Pot: [$6.13]: (Pre 19%, Flop 23%, Turn 14%)

Hero wins $7.45


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Wizard89
Joined: 16.09.2017

I wish you the best of luck with your goals !

If you play and study with consistency and discipline taking your time and without pressure you will definitely achieve them.


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Talisker74
Joined: 17.08.2009

Hello guys,

i guess restart was good for me.
I changed some things and actual it looks like having a heater for a longer period of time.
So this month i will continue playing NL2 to have a bit sample size.
I want to set me a goal to play 10* as much hands during the year, as i will be able to play in January...
Becaus hopefully i can move up some limits, which will mean some more learning will necessary to keep winning.

Conclusion so far.
NL2 => Learn basics, be patient don`t bluff the fish => beating the limit easyly
Graph so far:

Not every big hand can be won ->lost this Set-Up (nothing to complain, losing is part of the game...)

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

BTN: $4.14 (207 bb)
SB: $0.99 (49.5 bb)
BB: $2.18 (109 bb)
UTG: $2.17 (108.5 bb)
MP: $4.83 (241.5 bb)
Hero (CO): $4.37 (218.5 bb)

SB posts $0.01, BB posts $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has A♦: A♣:
UTG raises to $0.10, MP raises to $0.18, Hero raises to $0.26, fold, SB raises to $0.99 and is all-in, 2 folds, MP calls $0.81, Hero raises to $4.37 and is all-in, MP calls $3.38

Flop: ($9.85, 3 players) 5♣: 8♥: T♥:

Turn: ($9.85, 3 players) T♦:

River: ($9.85, 3 players) 3♦:

Results: $9.85 pot ($0.30 rake)
Final Board: 5♣: 8♥: T♥: T♦: 3♦:

MP shows J♠: T♠:: (Three of a Kind, Tens)
Main Pot: [$3.09]: (Pre 17%, Flop 17%, Turn 90%)
Side Pot: [$6.76]: (Pre 20%, Flop 21%, Turn 95%)

Hero shows A♦: A♣:: (Two Pair, Aces and Tens)
Main Pot: [$3.09]: (Pre 67%, Flop 68%, Turn 5%)
Side Pot: [$6.76]: (Pre 80%, Flop 79%, Turn 5%)

SB shows 9♥: 9♦:: (Two Pair, Tens and Nines)
Main Pot: [$3.09]: (Pre 16%, Flop 16%, Turn 5%)

MP wins $9.55


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Looking good!


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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

Awesome, man! Keep the mindset, and you will be crushing NL5+!!


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Talisker74
Joined: 17.08.2009

Hi guys,

hopefully i`m done with NL2 and can even win on NL5.
The start was not so well, but i guess it will be possible to beat the Limit in the long run as well....
So second session was a liitle loosing one, but i did not play well, and yesterday i had a nice run as well.

So longterm goal for this year => play round about 110k hands regular tables, just two tables in parallel...

So GL at the tables for you....


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FriskyArt
Joined: 27.10.2009

That is a really nice winrate at NL2 well done! Now go crush NL5 :f_drink:


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by Talisker74
hopefully i`m done with NL2 and can even win on NL5.

With the note that 10K hands isn't a huge sample, you might find NL 5 even easier, since at least some players there play rationally.

Best of luck :gl:,
VS


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Talisker74
Joined: 17.08.2009

Well NL5 seems to be unbeatable :f_drink:

So i lost every Set-Up and that was not good for my mindset directly after moving up....
so just three stacks left for shot...
lets see how that will work :f_rolleyes:
Could be that i need to play NL2 again maybe today, maybe not....

Sessions on NL5 so far....


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Talisker74
Joined: 17.08.2009

Hi guys,

first bullets of moving up didn`t hit....
So back to NL2 and grinding out the frustration.

I tried out kind of my own "tankroll-challange" wasn`t a good idea (forgot to move down just in time :f_drink:)
So i will change the rules and find hopefully a good way to move up (and down)
will following this BRM strategy:

So will continue with working on the basics this month and than look out for a topic for the next month....

GL at tables for all of you


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Talisker74
Joined: 17.08.2009

Hand of the weekend

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

UTG: $1.00 (50 bb)
CO: $2.34 (117 bb)
BTN: $1.60 (80 bb)
SB: $2.67 (133.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $2.74 (137 bb)

SB posts $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has K♥: T♥:
UTG calls $0.02, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.08, UTG calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.17, 2 players) J♥: A♥: 3♠:
Hero bets $0.11, UTG calls $0.11

Turn: ($0.39, 2 players) Q♥:
Hero bets $0.19, UTG calls $0.19

River: ($0.77, 2 players) 8♣:
Hero bets $0.44, fold

Results: $0.77 pot ($0.04 rake)
Final Board: J♥: A♥: 3♠: Q♥: 8♣:

Hero wins $0.73

River bet was a bit to high, but i was trying to get the maximum out of it....


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AgapieGheorghe
Joined: 10.07.2011