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[PLO5] AAK7ss 3bet pot oop

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naDanje
Joined: 01.04.2007

board should not connect too well with his range even so i think he does like to try and isolate limpers with a very wide range.
quite some history with this guy, at the point of the hand i am decently sure he is kinda on tilt vs me, also a strong hand he would very very likely pot back immediately on flop and not just call. overall he likes to Pot a lot, also his bluffs(of which i could already catch quite a few^^).
The Jd doesn't really complete anything besides him having J8xx.
holding Ad gives my hand some extra strength here i think, but enough to continue to barrel, if yes how big?

Xeester - Cash game GGPoker
Blindes : 0.02 $/0.05 $
[SB] Player 2 (6.55 $)
[BB] HERO (12.04 $)
[UTG] Player 4 (4.43 $)
[HJ] Player 5 (7.79 $)
[CO] Player 6 (16.36 $)
[BTN] Player 1 (4.42 $)
BLINDS-ANTES
Player 2 [SB] : Posts small blind 0.02$
HERO [BB] : Posts big blind 0.05$
PREFLOP A♦ A♥ K♥ 7♠
Player 4 [UTG] : Calls 0.05$
Player 5 [HJ] : Folds
Player 6 [CO] : Raises 0.22$
Player 1 [BTN] : Folds
Player 2 [SB] : Folds
HERO [BB] : Raises 0.68$
Player 4 [UTG] : Folds
Player 6 [CO] : Calls 0.51$
FLOP 3♥ 8♦ 4♠
HERO [BB] : Bets 1.53$
Player 6 [CO] : Calls 1.53$
TURN 3♥ 8♦ 4♠ J♦
HERO [BB] : ?


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Hausierer
Joined: 10.05.2005

The flop is one of the best for you when you don't connect in other ways like this time. Opponent will not hit much as well.
I'd just bet 1/2 flop and turn trying to milk some Kings / Queens and expect he will fold a lot on the Turn. I don't see a reason bloating the pot Oop.

Ofc absolutely not sure.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

100bb deep I would just pot flop and shove turn. But you are almost 250bb deep. I would check flop and just fold vs big bet.


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naDanje
Joined: 01.04.2007

Originally posted by Kyyberi
100bb deep I would just pot flop and shove turn. But you are almost 250bb deep. I would check flop and just fold vs big bet.

probably the smartest line

i lost my whole stack, he had a pair on flop (8), he calls turn with 9high fd and double gutter (i bet like 3/4 blocking nut fd and don't see a reasonable hand there being very happy with Jd) - his hand 9876tripple diamonds... river binks 5 completing his straight - me blocking 7 and like 0,5spr i send in the rest.... bye bye 250bb


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Hausierer
Joined: 10.05.2005

Why do we do not want to bet here? Flop is pretty good imho

Are the reason we are
a) deep ( biggest reason )
b) oop
c) runout will be way better for villain?

Do we bet here with a backdoor flushdraw+ str8draw or what are the bottom Aces we bet?


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Issue is stack depth. There are very few turns we really like to continue betting. That is often good sign to not cbet in first place. Even if we hit turn like T♥: its not like we are in nice spot being OOP with lot behind. Difference to SPR 4 or less on flop is that we can just shove lot of turns and not worry too much. Also in that case we are stacking off flop after potting. If we bet here and get raised we cant stack off. Also as side note as SPR is clearly over 4 I would not personally use pot size betting.

So I think here without having like AA85 or AA75 type of stuff I would just check. Also I am not really sure if I necessarily want to even 3bet pre. We have both A♥: and K♥: which is not good and 7 as side card have very little value. So yeah I like to just call personally with deep stacks and OOP.


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Hausierer
Joined: 10.05.2005

Thanks man, appreciated!


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naDanje
Joined: 01.04.2007

I do like the idea of calling pre this deep a lot. I never thiught about this with this type of hand and such a Stack, just doesnt happen often.
As played based on specific Situation with villain(strong madehand He wouldve bet for Sure himself on
Flop and turn) I dont even mind my line too much and Think it wasnt too off, but just calling pre is very deceptive and much easier to play against any villain, Not just this specific one. 3betting Was Kind of Standard go to line and did Not considerin Stacks when doing so, so will definetly Keep this in mind!


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

If it wasn't PLO5, I would just call with crappier AA preflop. But what I have seen in PLO5, people make big mistakes in 3bet pots all the time.


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