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PLO50 AT76sss x-r semibluff

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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Notice deep stacks.

Not much reads on villain really. He had made his stack in one massive multiway pot with somewhat mediocre holding. Had been fairly active looking but no postflop reads.

I think on flop both lead and x-r make sense. Well I suppose x-c is ok also with gs but I know these triple suited fd in general make ok x-r-f semibluffs.

On turn straight come in and I went for second barrel having blocker. X-c is not really good option so bet-fold seemed best to me.

River I make nuts and theory wise I think we either check or pot. Would you perhaps prefer different bet size if betting? I would also think this could be x-r candidate theory wise as we unblock K♣: and Q♣: which opponent could use either for value bet or bluff. Plus having three clubs make it less likely villain has flush. Though I think bluffs are very very rare. Also issue in reality is that there are fair amount of players who might be happy to even check second nuts in such big pot. So without good read I would not really think about checking.

Game #1812640218: Table €50 PL - 0.25/0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha - 18:26:48 2023/01/23
Seated players
Seat 2: H0ldemMaster (€25)
Seat 3: Jammia (€143.12)
Seat 4: Jordy3NL (€54.20) (sitting out)
Seat 5: Moneykeyeye (€204.16)
Seat 6: Silukki (€49.68)
Blinds and button
Silukki has the button
H0ldemMaster posts small blind €0.25
Jammia posts big blind €0.50
Hole cards
Dealt to Jammia T♣:7♥:A♣:6♣:
Preflop
Moneykeyeye raises €1.75 to €1.75
Silukki folds
H0ldemMaster folds
Jammia calls €1.25
Flop J♣:3♦:8♣: (3.75€)
Jammia checks
Moneykeyeye bets €2.81
Jammia raises €9.83 to €9.83
Moneykeyeye calls €7.02
Turn 7♠: (23.41€)
Jammia bets €17.55
Moneykeyeye calls €17.55
River 4♣: (58.51€)
Jammia?


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JohnCenaFA
Joined: 29.12.2009

For me it's hard to imagine that he holds a check-back type of hand from which we could extract some extra value at the river (9Txx, sets, toptwo). I would assume some QTcc, Q9cc with a pair or stg., which he is probably going to bet with on the river. My decision would be a ch-r, but against a good reg, I would probably try a small bet to induce.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Basically it depends a lot on how villain does value bet river. I have seen quite a lot of check backs in general on such big pots so I would not be surprised if third nuts check. Other issue in river x-r versus bet is sizings. If villain does bet its often quite small sizing and when we go for x-r it very often ends up in getting fold as nut blocker bluffs in these sort of spots are almost non existent in these stakes. So if villain mainly call versus river pot size with flush and only use smallish sizing when betting it can be tough to get more value with x-r.

But yeah big factor is also whatever villain is capable of bluffing. Versus some aggro players I would definitely go for x-r with this combo.


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JohnCenaFA
Joined: 29.12.2009

Yeah you may be right, I dont know the tendencies on PL50, I play mainly PL10, but nowadays trying a stab on PL25, depending on the actual field.


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YXKCOBRA
Joined: 20.09.2008

For me, it is a little aggressive play on the TURN. The check-raise move is alright... :f_thumbsup:


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YXKCOBRA
Joined: 20.09.2008

Exactly: After the second barrel - Everythings gonna be alright against just one Villain...... xD (On the TURN: Easy win / Easy fold decision) :f_drink:


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Mascherano95
Joined: 09.10.2010

Solver is more leaning toward leading this flop with triple nutsuit. I personally simplified it leading 100% when having three suits with nutflushdraw because differentiating those hands is already pretty extensive. I guess the reason is, if we check-raise and get called we block 1 of our own outs which hurts more in a bigger pot but I agree that check-raising is a solid alternative. I don´t like check-calling as it is hard to have a turn card where we start donking and we have good continuing blockers with 7♥: and 6♣: and we have no SDV.

With our specific hand (three suits and the :Tx: blocker) 2barreling the turn is fine but be aware that our betting frequency is not very high as the card is bad for our range in general. Check-calling is an option here.

On the river solver first calculates betting then switches into checking showing that the EV is pretty similar (both lines have around 120bb EV and solver is checking 100% with both leading sizings (100%+50% or just 75%). I assume that the reason for check-raising is, that we block villains check-back range consisting of low flushes and are more likely to induce a bluff stab otr from a no-flush hand. If you fear villain might check-back lots of strong flushes and also barely bluffing (in rush environment there are lots of such asian rakeback nits betting nuts only on all sort of textures) we surely might donk half-pot since it allows us mimic this line with a high bluff-frequency.


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YXKCOBRA
Joined: 20.09.2008

I classify triple suited flush draw cards and quad suited flush draw cards as minus goods or very strong flush blockers. :f_cool:


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