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Deekinz
Joined: 27.07.2023

I am UTG+1 in a tournament. I have K♥: K♦:. Blinds are 1k, 2k. UTG straddles to 4k. I raise to 10k UTG+1. It folds around to UTG (aggressive player) who calls.

He then checks blind before the flop. Flop comes :4x: :5x: :Jx: I bet 10k. He then raises to 40k. And I call.

He then goes all in blind to the turn. The turn comes a :7x:

Straight away I'm thinking he has :Ax: :Ax:. I ask him if he has aces, to which he says "I promise I don't have aces". And I believe him. So realistically I'm thinking is the best he has is :4x: :4x: ,:5x: :5x: or :Jx: :Jx:. But I think he'd re-raise pre-flop with :Jx: :Jx: , so I rule that out. I think he could make this bet with :Qx: :Qx: or :Tx: :Tx: . So I called the all-in. Since flopping a set is pretty hard and I was already pot committed with only 15k left if I fold.

He turned over :6x: :8x: for a straight and I lost the hand.

Do you think I played this hand badly? Should I have folded? I was correct with thinking he didn't have trips and I could never put him on the hand he had since he called 10k pre-flop out of position.

What would you have done here?

Thanks.


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regie
Joined: 06.03.2008

We don’t know the suited flop and hands. In case this flop suited I would push flop if it was shallow, otherwise I would check the flop. If it was rainbow, you stack off flop easily.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I have moved you're hand to our tournament hand discussion board. There fits it better.
I didn't know you can straddle in live tournaments. I would expect it's more something for ring games.

Originally posted by regie
We don’t know the suited flop and hands. In case this flop suited I would push flop if it was shallow, otherwise I would check the flop. If it was rainbow, you stack off flop easily.

Agree. Also stack dynamic on the table is importent to know.

Villian only needed to call 6k more. So calling with a wide range seems reasonable, but with all the blind moves of villain it's really tough to expect that he/she hits the turn. Without knowing the stack dynamic and suites of the cards shoving flop seems reasonable with a over pair.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Deekinz
Joined: 27.07.2023

I can’t remember the exact suits but it was a rainbow board and his two cards weren’t suited.

Thinking back on it I have been thinking that I should have shoved on the flop over his 40k

Thanks


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nsavov
Joined: 24.09.2010

Straddles in a tournament? You mean he just min raised blind?

How deep were the stacks? Was the shove on the turn about pot size or like 3x pot or 10x pot?

If the turn bet was about pot size it's totally fine to stack off with KK on J high dry-ish board.

He also wouldn't really have AA but even if he has them in his range, it's fine. KK vs AA for about 30 to 40bb stacks is inevitable stack off.

Also, is this a final table or near the money?


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Deekinz
Joined: 27.07.2023

No he genuinely straddled it was allowed in the tournament. I guess straddling is just blind min raising essentially.

Stacks weren’t too deep but he was the only player that had me covered. I had about 80k and he had around 90k so his jam on the turn was about half pot.

It’s first day of the tournament about 4 hours in so not near the money.

I was just literally so confused from the way he was playing so I just thought fuck it and called as I was already heavily pot committed


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nsavov
Joined: 24.09.2010

You didn't do wrong by stacking off. Just was very unlucky.

I would have bet smaller on the flop with my whole range and after getting raised - never fold J or better. Both calling and shoving the flop are reasonable. Readless, I guess call.

You are right to question your play and always try to get better. What you should learn from this hand is how strong your hand is with shallow stacks. If you consider folding it, might as well sit out and lose your chips slower :)


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Deekinz
Joined: 27.07.2023

Thanks, I’ve only been playing poker for 7 months and I am getting pretty confident. Always wanting to improve my game and learn more though! Studying and playing poker has pretty much been all I have been doing in my pass time for the past 7 months. I like to think I’m very good in relation to how long I’ve played poker.

Thanks for the help :)


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

That makes the tournament a lot more interesting.
Straddles are most of the time not profitable I think and in tournaments unusual.


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Deekinz
Joined: 27.07.2023

Yeah I guess it’s not profitable because realistically you’d only usually play around 20% of your hands which gives you an 80% chance of having cards you wouldn’t usually play when you straddle.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Indeed and the pot is already a lot bigger and than it would be more interesting for the other players to try to win the pot.


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