PLO50 AKT9ss 3way pot, postflop line?

I dont like the line against two opponent.
They will check back turn without the straight most of the time , Than it is an easy Bet on the River everything missed

I don't play PLO50 but I think I'm checking turn by default. I do however agree that it's unlikely that villians have Q9.

What are you hoping for that calls on the river with this sizing, that would fold to a bigger sizing?

Originally posted by regie
I dont like the line against two opponent.
They will check back turn without the straight most of the time , Than it is an easy Bet on the River everything missed

We are in position so option is to take free river or bet-fold. We have some high equity semibluffs we can bet-call like this hand with nfd but if we want to have some bet-folds this seem reasonable. Nice thing in it being 3way is that it should look really strong. Bad side obviously decreased fe for turn bet.

Well I would likely check with AKJ9 having bit better showdown value and outs to top two pair.

Originally posted by Plompoker
What are you hoping for that calls on the river with this sizing, that would fold to a bigger sizing?

I honestly don't expect less than second nuts calling versus shove even if SPR is only 0.5. So I would shove nuts but for 2nd nuts value bet that expectation is obviously issue. I also doubt there is much of chance for split hand to fold. With closer to pot size behind there would be higher chance for that.

So by betting small I hope to get calls from sets, two pair or weaker straights. Might not happen but I often find surprising calls and obviously if we get weaker to fold with this sizing our bluffs are really happy. But issue is that on this river its tough to have bluffs. 9x without straight is quite tough to have. Also not sure if QQ make that great bluff as it also block higher straight draws heavily making second nuts lot more likely.

In position it is a great play. I missread the hand

It's difficult because villians are unknowns. I wouldn't be worried to much but as you said yourself if we have the nuts we shove. Doesn't this type of bet/fold line kind of put our cards face up? I just have a really hard time to construct our range here. I do like the thin value bet though because we can be fairly certain that villians do not have Q9. but then I feel like we don't need a funky sizing and can just go 33% or bigger. does 33% commit you on the river?

I´d probably fold or raise the flop. I think the 9♣: blocking straightdraws together with the T♦: blocking 2pairs and top-set we have a nice pure bluff candidate. Also we have no playability without solid drawing outs nor backdoor options, so we do not profit a lot from seeing another card. If I feel like I don´t get enough credit or opponents are just too bad to fold I´d rather fold myself right away with a 3rd player sitting behind me.

The turn bet is okay because:

-We are likely to make up against loose passive lines - implied FE by having an aggressive river strategy
-Checks show weakness, MP´s flop-call is likely to be too loose - insta FE repping the straight blocking the
-We protect our river 2-pair improvements somewhat - prevents merged river donks
-With just one nutted gutshot we do not sacrifice notable Equity, if the bet gets raised - insta visibility

That´s the pros. Preferably we´d like having a ♠ flushdraw blocker or better SV/other Blockers.
That would make the bluff less marginal, we have to be more careful 3way with pure bluffs.

My token bets otr are a little bigger, I´d bet 12-16 € considering the relative size to the pot but basically I like the idea of betting very small to generate some extra value here.