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aleasy77
Joined: 03.03.2014

I prefer after short stack push preflop re-raise all in here with jacks, correct strategy?


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regie
Joined: 06.03.2008

Well played JJ all the time


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Indeed. Especially so short this is a standard stack off with JJ.
Not sure I like the call with KQo against a 5bb shove and a 25bb iso shove.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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aleasy77
Joined: 03.03.2014

For me KQo here is easy fold preflop, call is only for lucky runnout but people how on this tournament can't fold weak KQo preflop how here on 4bet all in preflop for 20bb with KQo too.
And this player who calls here on BB this KQo has 54k won on tournaments.


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regie
Joined: 06.03.2008

He does not care about small mtt buy in, and risks chips. Winning strategy every Stakes also pays out even small mtt . Dont Worry


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

It's also a PKO. That could influence villains calling range, but still KQo is a optimistic call I think.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

We can iso shove here fairly wide but yeah KQo is too wide. Suited might be somewhat close. If this was psko mtt KQo call would probably be fine.


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aleasy77
Joined: 03.03.2014

Why I hate Play this micro tournaments too hard win something and we must get lucky to win hands with better equity. I Play one tournament with 109$ entry and better game than every micro tournament.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Well thats what mtt deep run usually require. Its pretty rare to not win flip or some 30-40% equity spot.


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aleasy77
Joined: 03.03.2014

I have too often bad runnouts exactly on ggp. But Russians which play here must too often get lucky. They catch more times draws when somebody has draw too than only I have strong draws. And what I see and not only me that more lucky have players which has big win for example if click on some player to get some information.


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aleasy77
Joined: 03.03.2014

Next example when opponent should fold but not and get lucky for what he calls here 44...

PokerStars, $0.98 + $0.12 - Hold'em No Limit - 175/350 (50 ante) - 8 players
Replay this hand on Pokeit - https://pokeit.co/public/325hqpIvK/r

UTG: 18,957 (54 bb)
UTG+1: 7,690 (22 bb)
MP: 4,548 (13 bb)
MP+1: 29,261 (84 bb)
CO: 20,174 (58 bb)
BU (Hero): 8,086 (23 bb)
SB: 11,435 (33 bb)
BB: 59,790 (171 bb)

Pre-Flop: (925) Hero is BTN with A♣ K♣
UTG calls 350, UTG+1 raises to 1,050, 3 players fold, Hero 3-bets to 8,036 (all-in), 1 fold, BB calls 7,686, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls 6,590 (all-in)

Flop: (24,637) 4♥ 4♦ 3♣ (3 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (24,637) 3♠ (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: (24,637) 7♥ (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: 24,637

Showdown:
BU (Hero) shows A♣ K♣ (two pair, Fours and Threes)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 38%, Flop: <1%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

UTG+1 shows T♣ T♠ (two pair, Tens and Fours)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 44%, Flop: <1%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

BB shows 4♣ 4♠ (four of a kind, Fours)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 18%, Flop: >99%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

BB wins 24,637


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

TT call seems alright, but not sure what villain was thinking with the 44.
That's a really optimistic play with a raise and a shove in front of him/her.
Off course the variance in those micro MTT's is a lot higher with also a bigger field, but this was a bad run out.
Even if 44 had folded you lost almost you're entire stack.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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aleasy77
Joined: 03.03.2014

Typical I have only bad runs.


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Incog
Joined: 18.08.2006

Originally posted by aleasy77
Typical I have only bad runs.

Since we are both playing the same stacks/BuyIns I can agree that those suckouts are hard, specially if the happen so often. Normally u would think the BigStack is content with his stack, but the get even wider (nonPKO).

Frustrating, but the good note is that, we do want those fishies/whales in Poker.

Keep ur head up, stick to the grind.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

That's why bankroll management is really important in MTT's. The variance is huge and 300 buy-ins swings are possible I think. Especially in huge players fields.


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aleasy77
Joined: 03.03.2014

Originally posted by Incog

Originally posted by aleasy77
Typical I have only bad runs.

Since we are both playing the same stacks/BuyIns I can agree that those suckouts are hard, specially if the happen so often. Normally u would think the BigStack is content with his stack, but the get even wider (nonPKO).

Frustrating, but the good note is that, we do want those fishies/whales in Poker.

Keep ur head up, stick to the grind.

I return again with ****** runnout

PokerStars, $0.98 + $0.12 - Hold'em No Limit - 90/180 (27 ante) - 8 players
Replay this hand on Pokeit - https://pokeit.co/public/525hxslcU/r

UTG: 19,487 (108 bb)
UTG+1 (Hero): 4,763 (26 bb)
MP: 12,522 (70 bb)
MP+1: 9,093 (51 bb)
CO: 9,766 (54 bb)
BU: 1,419 (8 bb)
SB: 5,366 (30 bb)
BB: 4,973 (28 bb)

Pre-Flop: (486) Hero is UTG+1 with Q♠ Q♥
1 fold, Hero raises to 450, 5 players fold, BB 3-bets to 1,260, Hero 4-bets to 4,736 (all-in), BB calls 3,476

Flop: (9,778) 7♥ 5♣ 4♠ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (9,778) K♠ (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (9,778) 6♠ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 9,778

Showdown:
UTG+1 (Hero) shows Q♠ Q♥ (a pair of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 71%, Flop: 86%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

BB shows J♦ K♣ (a pair of Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 29%, Flop: 14%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)

BB wins 9,778

Again opponent has hand which should fold he calls and get lucky in another tournament today I go out after coin flip, all in preflop with 88 vs AK ech


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Just unlucky indeed. Next time better. On long run it's good for you that villains calling to loose, but didn't work out this time.


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aleasy77
Joined: 03.03.2014

I don't agree. Enough one bad spot and we go out from tournament for example like here:

PokerStars, $2.94 + $0.36 - Hold'em No Limit - 1,500/3,000 (500 ante) - 8 players
Replay this hand on Pokeit - https://pokeit.co/public/525hzad3g/r

UTG: 377,178 (126 bb)
UTG+1 (Hero): 56,090 (19 bb)
MP: 189,226 (63 bb)
MP+1: 137,589 (46 bb)
CO: 217,478 (72 bb)
BU: 34,090 (11 bb)
SB: 79,218 (26 bb)
BB: 754,294 (251 bb)

Pre-Flop: (8,500) Hero is UTG+1 with K♣ A♣
UTG calls 3,000, Hero raises to 55,590 (all-in), 6 players fold, UTG calls 52,590

Flop: (119,680) Q♠ J♣ A♦ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (119,680) 2♥ (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (119,680) 6♥ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 119,680

Showdown:
UTG+1 (Hero) shows K♣ A♣ (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 63%, Flop: 41%, Turn: 27%, River: 0%)

UTG shows Q♥ J♥ (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 37%, Flop: 59%, Turn: 73%, River: 100%)

UTG wins 119,680

Can win this pot and go to higher places but no. And this hand one step to 3 path:

PokerStars, $1.40 + $0.10 - Hold'em No Limit - 2,000/4,000 (400 ante) - 8 players
Replay this hand on Pokeit - https://pokeit.co/public/525hAqmGk/r

UTG: 37,220 (9 bb)
UTG+1: 36,380 (9 bb)
MP: 15,834 (4 bb)
MP+1 (Hero): 21,350 (5 bb)
CO: 36,930 (9 bb)
BU: 7,730 (2 bb)
SB: 94,064 (24 bb)
BB: 4,100 (1 bb)

Pre-Flop: (8,900) Hero is MP+1 with A♠ Q♣
3 players fold, Hero raises to 20,950 (all-in), CO calls 20,950, 2 players fold, Luca72AK sips a martini

Flop: (50,800) K♣ 5♦ K♠ (3 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (50,800) J♥ (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: (50,800) T♣ (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: 50,800

Showdown:
MP+1 (Hero) shows A♠ Q♣ (a straight, Ten to Ace)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 44%, Flop: <1%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

BB shows 5♣ 9♠ (two pair, Kings and Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 23%, Flop: <1%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

CO shows J♣ K♥ (a full house, Kings full of Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 33%, Flop: >99%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

CO wins 50,800

If we can get to final table or win one tournament we must win every this hand. One or two lose when we are favourite and go out. On micro structure payouts is small and must go to final table to get good prize.


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regie
Joined: 06.03.2008

In tournament early stadium we need to play well and loosie agressive to Build big stack, Than we need to stay with big stack to avoid coolers You lose.


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aleasy77
Joined: 03.03.2014

In different site we must get some good hands too on early stage because on micro tournaments people play a lot of hands (weird too) so we must have attention for example with bluffs on spots. And key is the value hands to build stack and win pots when we are favorite. People calls trash hands for only get lucky sometimes.


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