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[COACHING]Beginner's Guide: Fine tuning your strategy

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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

2024 BEGINNER'S GUIDE: BEYOND THE GUIDE

:diamond: WHEN: TBC TBC TBC 2024 TBC CEST (TBC UTC)
:diamond: WHERE: Our Twitch Channel
:diamond: WHAT: We go beyond the Beginner's guide! See how it builds into crushing NL10 with very advanced concepts and kickstart your journey to poker domination

:diamond: See the full guide we build on here:
https://forums.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?postid=3461871#post3461871

:diamond: What you can expect:

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And of course, Join us live in chat, and help us improve the live lesson and recording with your questions and suggestions!


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Timmaywin
Joined: 23.02.2010

Great!

I will join the stream on Twitch.
Curious about all the work that you have done in the last weeks Lemon! _thumbsup:


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Paxis
Joined: 01.11.2006

Have fun with it.
Unfortunately I don't have time on Thursday, otherwise I would have tuned in live :f_drink:


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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

Originally posted by Paxis
Have fun with it.
Unfortunately I don't have time on Thursday, otherwise I would have tuned in live :f_drink:
Ladies and gentlemen: the Godfather, the goat and OG Author himself!


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Paxis
Joined: 01.11.2006

Too much honor but:

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LemOn36
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MorchManN
Joined: 05.03.2005

Hi @Lemon

Nice and thank you for the stream! I did not have time to watch live but checked VOD. One question came up:
Around min 51 where you have 33 in SB. You mentioned that "only if another player entered the pot we could continue". Is this refering to the special rule that if someone has raised and there is at least one cold caller that we can also call any pocket pair? Does this rule also apply for unraised pots or why could we continue the hand with another player in the pot? Also would the same apply for suited connectors 54s+?


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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

Thank you very much, for pointing it out, I will make it clear in the final edit. For everyone who didn't make it I'd suggest to WAIT FOR THE VIDEO RECORDING on Pokerstrategy that will come next week - I had a coughing fit in the beginning I need to cut out, and I will add some edits and timestamps so you can skip to the good parts :)

Originally posted by MorchManN
Hi @Lemon

Nice and thank you for the stream! I did not have time to watch live but checked VOD. One question came up:
Around min 51 where you have 33 in SB. You mentioned that "only if another player entered the pot we could continue". Is this refering to the special rule that if someone has raised and there is at least one cold caller that we can also call any pocket pair? Does this rule also apply for unraised pots or why could we continue the hand with another player in the pot? Also would the same apply for suited connectors 54s+?

Special rule for Pocket Pairs:
We can only enter the pot with pocket pairs like 2♥: 2♠: if the charts indicate we should, otherwise we fold them. The only exception is this special rule - if there has been a raise and at least one call to the raise before us we can call all pocket pairs.

Special rule for Suited Connectors: If we have at least 4♥: 5♥: or a better Suited Connector (SCs), in the Cut Off or on the Button, and there has been a raise AND a call to this raise before us, then we are allowed to call these SCs.

Right, when we look at the rules, it's only when someone raised and there was a call i.e. we don't want 22 and suited connectors in a limped pot really. It seems tight and counter-intuitive to call a raise + a call with them, but not even complete in the small blind vs a limp right?

Well, the reason is our post flop strategy - we only check and fold with anything less than a top pair made hand when there is 3+ players, AND we always raise and stack off with monsters, which in case of these small pockets and suited connectors run the risk of being dominated, and we'd often overplay our hand with e.g. bottom 2 pair in a 5 way limped pot. Whereas in a raised 3way pot their ranges will contain more high cards so our low sets and 2 pairs won't be dominated as often.

This is one of the first spots where if you get more advanced you can start completing preflop - but you will need to be able to let go even e.g. of a set when it's multiway and limped and a flush hits - something following the post-flop guide doesn't account for


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MorchManN
Joined: 05.03.2005

Nice, and thanks for your neat explanation! Indeed it sounds counterintuitive. My first guess was, that we want to have more implied odds and chances opponents have a good hand and the pot will be big if we hit our monsters are higher. But the main reasoning you just mentioned makes way more sense !!


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LemOn36
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LemOn36
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2024 BEGINNER'S GUIDE: FINE TUNING YOUR GAME

:diamond: WHEN: THURSDAY July 4th 2024 20:00 CEST (18:00 UTC)
:diamond: WHERE: Our Twitch Channel
:diamond: WHAT: You have studied the Beginner's Guide. You mastered the ranges, guidelines and rules. And now, on Independence Day itself, it's time to make your first independent moves and build on what you learned and take your game to the next level! Join us in this coaching that will guide you through your first steps that will build on top of what you have learned in the 2024 Beginner's Guide!

:diamond: See the full guide we build on here:
https://forums.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?postid=3461871#post3461871

:diamond: What you can expect:

  • Odds, outs and playing draws against more than 2x raises
  • Relative hand strength and adjustments to hand categories in unique situations
  • Marking your opponents and adjusting your strategy
  • Changes made to guide to date
  • Getting ready for NL10

And of course, Join us live in chat, and help us improve the live lesson and recording with your questions and suggestions!


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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

Tonight is the night! Join us at 20:00 CEST for first steps beyond the guide!


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casinowizard
Joined: 25.06.2024

Is the final edit out yet? Looking forward to checking it out!


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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

Originally posted by casinowizard
Is the final edit out yet? Looking forward to checking it out!

Video is out!
https://www.pokerstrategy.com/video/54319/
I will be adding timestamps after next week too so you can jump to sections you want


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