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Middle set vs 2 shoves on straight flop

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BunBun00
Joined: 13.09.2023

EP (150bb) opens A♥:5♥:K♠:5♣:
BU calls (60bb) and on tilt, BB (150bb) defends
3♣:5♠:7♣:
BB bets 100%, EP calls, BU shoves, EP?
Assuming BB is shoving 2PR+fd or better i have 33-35% equity. So I'm getting the odds to call. But should I? I only have 13.5bb invested in the pot and taking rake into consideration is it even break even? Also if I lose I won't be able to rebuy for 150bb so fold and wait for a better spot?


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Seems like fold to me as default. You could argue that BU can be way too wide with his shove and BB might take that into account. But we block 75+fd type hand quite a bit with 55 and club.


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Mascherano95
Joined: 09.10.2010

Assuming BB is shoving 2PR+fd or better i have 33-35% equity.

But you don´t know if BB will shove? BB has to act before you... If BB shoves it´s an easy fold. If he calls it´s marginal but with your specific holding having no straight blocker you gotta fold aswell. (you need more sidevalue to reshove or call like blocking straight outs+bdfd/fd-blocker).


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BunBun00
Joined: 13.09.2023

He did re-shove I missed writing that. How is it an easy fold? Isn't pot odds the main determining factor here? If I have the correct pot odds, which I do, it's a profitable call in the long run, even If I have little invested in the pot. Am I missing something here?


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nidorino
Joined: 16.09.2010

It can be quite tricky these 3way AI situations. Pokerjuice had a modul for that before. You have to count EV for side pots etc.
If you really want to dig in this stuff you can put up a spreadsheet for different stacksizes.
My intuition says fold but Iam not sure.


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Mascherano95
Joined: 09.10.2010

Originally posted by BunBun00
He did re-shove I missed writing that. How is it an easy fold? Isn't pot odds the main determining factor here? If I have the correct pot odds, which I do, it's a profitable call in the long run, even If I have little invested in the pot. Am I missing something here?

Ye BU short is marginal I guess. so it does not matter what you do. it should be close. if they are nits I fold if they are splashy I´d just stick it in.

At 100bb solver would fold vs BB shove and here you both have 150bb so theoretically he needs a stronger shoving range which leads to the necessity of you wanna having a stronger stack-off range. But some people deviate a lot in dead money spots so you dont really know what´s going on, sometimes the tighten up so much for psyhological reasons. Theoretically. In fact if he is raising top-set or monsterdraws only there is no point in getting it in since you are investing lot of chips into a situations where you´ll never be good.


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