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bah22
Joined: 28.01.2008

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $80(BB) Full Tilt
SB ($7,155)
BB ($9,950)
UTG ($3,180)
UTG+1 ($7,565)
UTG+2 ($4,630)
MP1 ($2,000)
Hero ($2,590)
CO ($2,810)
BTN ($4,910)

Dealt to Hero J♣ Q♣

fold, UTG+1 raises to $160, fold, fold, Hero calls $160, fold, fold, SB calls $120, fold

FLOP ($560) 4♥ 7♣ 5♣

SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $240, SB calls $240, UTG+1 calls $240

TURN ($1,280) 4♥ 7♣ 5♣ J♠

SB bets $240, UTG+1 calls $240, Hero raises to $2,190 (AI), SB folds, UTG+1 folds

Hero shows J♣ Q♣

Hero wins $2,000

I decided to make a loose call here but with the possition and big stack's loose image i think it is OK.
What's the best play on the play on the turn? Should i raise less? Maybe bet 2/3 pot on the flop, right?


5 replies

Preflop is a bit loose, rest I would play the same.


Agiz19
Joined: 19.03.2007

bet 2/3 of pot on flop , and value bet turn if you get raised then shove allin , your allin on turn overbetting pot is a bad play. otherwise NH.


your bet on the flop is far too small if you want to bet.
this bet wont make anybody fold if they have anything at all.
so i like your preflop limp in position.
on the flop against 3 opponents i think i would check.
you wont have enough fold equity i think against 3 players to profitable semi bluff.
but ok the bet is fine too, but then bet more. something around 350
on the turn i dont like your push.
your most likely ahead here + many outs if your behind.
so i wont chase away everybody with this huge raise.
i would raise to 800 or 900 and then put the rest in on the river if called.


TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

lol u panic when u hit ur J
i go with judge here just reraise not shove u got big hand big draw
and with flop bet i think same as judge here u should bet more 300-350 to polarize ur range and this way u can protect ur blufs and get paid when u got big hands.
why u bet so weak ??? couse ur hand is weak??
bet like u hit and u are value betting and protecting ur hand.
u got position and nice draw and u want to win big pot when u hit flush so i like to bet/ not check behind here, solid bet 2/3 pot. i might take this pot down right now can make some better hands then mine fold kq /kj, Ax and buy my self few more outs, and after that with position can control pot i might take free card or second barrel it....
so bigger bet on flop and raise not shove
and btw i can see in every hands that u post that ur shoving way to much, give a chance to players with worse hands to call u, ur scaring them all _o:
gl at the tables


bah22
Joined: 28.01.2008

Originally posted by TheRebuz
lol u panic when u hit ur J
i go with judge here just reraise not shove u got big hand big draw
and with flop bet i think same as judge here u should bet more 300-350 to polarize ur range and this way u can protect ur blufs and get paid when u got big hands.
why u bet so weak ??? couse ur hand is weak??
bet like u hit and u are value betting and protecting ur hand.
u got position and nice draw and u want to win big pot when u hit flush so i like to bet/ not check behind here, solid bet 2/3 pot. i might take this pot down right now can make some better hands then mine fold kq /kj, Ax and buy my self few more outs, and after that with position can control pot i might take free card or second barrel it....
so bigger bet on flop and raise not shove
and btw i can see in every hands that u post that ur shoving way to much, give a chance to players with worse hands to call u, ur scaring them all _o:
gl at the tables

Well, i agree i had to bet more on the flop. On the turn the pot is around 1700 and i got 2100. If i raise and not push it would be obvious i am committed. I don't think someone will try to bluff me if i reraise the turn anyway! Maybe i am protecting little too much but believe me it often pays off since donks think i am weaker when i push!