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Muscledude
Joined: 25.04.2024

PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 58 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 2.90, 3Bet Preflop: 1.08, Hands: 486)
SB: 105.5 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
Hero (BB): 38 BB
UTG: 83.5 BB (VPIP: 58.82, PFR: 17.65, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 17)
UTG+1: 120 BB (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 9.80, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 51)
MP: 100.5 BB (VPIP: 36.27, PFR: 5.22, 3Bet Preflop: 1.34, Hands: 2,067)
MP+1: 60 BB
CO: 225 BB (VPIP: 11.54, PFR: 6.92, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 131)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 2♣ K♣

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 1 BB, fold, Hero checks

Flop: (3.5 BB, 3 players) 3♣ K♦ T♠
Hero?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I would most likely go for a 2bb bet for protection and thin value. If you face a raise you are most likely beat.

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SDK1987


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Muscledude
Joined: 25.04.2024

PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 58 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 2.90, 3Bet Preflop: 1.08, Hands: 486)
SB: 105.5 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
Hero (BB): 38 BB
UTG: 83.5 BB (VPIP: 58.82, PFR: 17.65, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 17)
UTG+1: 120 BB (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 9.80, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 51)
MP: 100.5 BB (VPIP: 36.27, PFR: 5.22, 3Bet Preflop: 1.34, Hands: 2,067)
MP+1: 60 BB
CO: 225 BB (VPIP: 11.54, PFR: 6.92, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 131)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 2♣ K♣

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 1 BB, fold, Hero checks

Flop: (3.5 BB, 3 players) 3♣ K♦ T♠
Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN checks

Turn: (3.5 BB, 3 players) T♣
Hero?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

the T is a tricky card. Now I would consider to check it down and to keep the pot small with king no kicker.
Especially out of postion you don't want to build up a pot anymore with a hand with reasonable showdown value


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Muscledude
Joined: 25.04.2024

PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 58 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 2.90, 3Bet Preflop: 1.08, Hands: 486)
SB: 105.5 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
Hero (BB): 38 BB
UTG: 83.5 BB (VPIP: 58.82, PFR: 17.65, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 17)
UTG+1: 120 BB (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 9.80, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 51)
MP: 100.5 BB (VPIP: 36.27, PFR: 5.22, 3Bet Preflop: 1.34, Hands: 2,067)
MP+1: 60 BB
CO: 225 BB (VPIP: 11.54, PFR: 6.92, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 131)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 2♣ K♣

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 1 BB, fold, Hero checks

Flop: (3.5 BB, 3 players) 3♣ K♦ T♠
Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN checks

Turn: (3.5 BB, 3 players) T♣
Hero checks, UTG bets 2 BB, BTN calls 2 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

River: (9.5 BB, 3 players) 7♣
Hero?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Most likely check/fold on a reasonable bet with only a 2♣: blocker for the flush.


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Muscledude
Joined: 25.04.2024

Are you sure to check fold the second best made flush?


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

SDK misread your hand for being K2o.

Betting river is probably fine. Not sure sizing wise but I would probably go like around pot. It's very unlikely anyone has boat with flop checks. Also looking to x-shove is fine as long as we assume Tx to be value betting which is probably standard.

Have not played holdem for a while though.


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Muscledude
Joined: 25.04.2024

PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 58 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 2.90, 3Bet Preflop: 1.08, Hands: 486)
SB: 105.5 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
Hero (BB): 38 BB
UTG: 83.5 BB (VPIP: 58.82, PFR: 17.65, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 17)
UTG+1: 120 BB (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 9.80, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 51)
MP: 100.5 BB (VPIP: 36.27, PFR: 5.22, 3Bet Preflop: 1.34, Hands: 2,067)
MP+1: 60 BB
CO: 225 BB (VPIP: 11.54, PFR: 6.92, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 131)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 2♣ K♣

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 1 BB, fold, Hero checks

Flop: (3.5 BB, 3 players) 3♣ K♦ T♠
Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN checks

Turn: (3.5 BB, 3 players) T♣
Hero checks, UTG bets 2 BB, BTN calls 2 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

River: (9.5 BB, 3 players) 7♣
Hero checks, UTG bets 9 BB, BTN calls 9 BB, Hero calls 9 BB

Spoiler

UTG shows J♣ 5♣ (Flush, Jack High)
(Pre 28%, Flop 5%, Turn 0%)
BTN shows A♣ 6♣ (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 44%, Flop 14%, Turn 19%)
Hero mucks 2♣ K♣ (Flush, King High)
(Pre 28%, Flop 81%, Turn 81%)
BTN wins 34.5 BB
Rake paid 2 BB


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

In general you can discount Axs combos somewhat with preflop limping but yeah BU seemed to be extremely passive player. I would have lost all by value shoving river versus bet and call.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Originally posted by ghaleon
SDK misread your hand for being K2o.

Betting river is probably fine. Not sure sizing wise but I would probably go like around pot. It's very unlikely anyone has boat with flop checks. Also looking to x-shove is fine as long as we assume Tx to be value betting which is probably standard.

Have not played holdem for a while though.

I think I missed 1 of the :club: on the board, but not sure. Hard not to get broke with the king high flush. Off course is also a change the better has a full house.

Originally posted by ghaleon
In general you can discount Axs combos somewhat with preflop limping but yeah BU seemed to be extremely passive player. I would have lost all by value shoving river versus bet and call.

On NL2 you can expect limping of Ax. Especially the UTG limper, but overall it's unlucky villain has a better flush this time. Especially as BTN player I would expect at least a raise on the river or scared of a full house.


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Muscledude
Joined: 25.04.2024

The MSS strategy says to check fold top pair seems a bit nitty to me but it would have saved cash the poor kicker is a concern, one other thing If I shove on turn I cannot cash out if both call as they both have me covered so one would need to fold, this obviously only works on poker stars using their cash out policy.
What are your thoughts on the cash out policy as using the MSS strategy is a tighter range so should pay off in the longer term by not using it maybe. I am only slightly down overall using by $2.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Not no used of the MSS strategy, but multi way it's not a big mistake to fold top pair no kicker. In general I would try to get a little bit value or win the pot right away with a 2bb on the flop and if you face aggression you have a easy escape.


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