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[Closed] NL100 QQ topset 4 flush board - Fish Battle #1

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SoyCD
Joined: 20.02.2008

Hand is vs same guy as: NL100 TT FH - Fish Battle #3 & NL100 Q7s second nut flush

He seems more passive than aggressive (open limping from MPx) but has been seen raising draws and pairs. 19/11 stats

I think up until the turn this hand pretty much plays itself. 3bet pre-flop and potsize bet on this ultra drawy flop with our top set. I'd easily get it in if raises since he could have AAc KKc JJ or AK with king or ace of clubs.

On the turn everything but JJ gets there.

Shove vs Check/Fold vs Check Call

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$0.5/$1 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

Known players:
[tg]MP2$81.65:///////;MP3$105.45:///////;CO$18.00:///////;BU$25.55:///////;SB(Hero)$128.60:///////;BB$100.00:///////;UTG2$172.50:///////;MP1$135.30:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q:h, Q:d.
UTG2 calls $1.00, 2 folds, MP3 raises to $4.00, 2 folds, Hero raises to $14.00, 2 folds, MP3 calls $10.00.

Flop: ($30) Q:c, J:c, 3:c (2 players)
Hero bets $29.00, MP3 calls $29.00.

Turn: ($88) 4:c (2 players)
Hero ???


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

i think you should c/f.

As you said, everything gets there. AA/KK would have shoved but AAc and KKc might call since they are not scared of a club turn. JJ (even JJc) would have shoved flop as well to protect against a club.

AcQ might play this way, AcJ too. Basically his entire range plays like Ac/Kc and you are screwed no matter what. Weaker hands might opt to check behind and as you said, he seems to be a little passive so he might try to get to showdown without adding more money instead of blast you off the pot.


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

I think i'd also check the turn and continue playing for odds and outs.

As both of you said your opponent will most likely not bet any hand that you beat so there's nothing you can do but fold if you don't get the odds to continue with you hand.