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[Closed] NL400 SH - pair + oesd

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bumbi999
Joined: 12.03.2008

v: 26/20/2,9

flop/turn?

Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

Leosztás lejátszása

$2/$4 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

Known players:
[tg]CO$422.00:///////;BU$394.00:///////;SB$556.45:///////;BB$820.50:///////;MP2$400.00:///////;MP3(Hero)$400.00:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 3:s, 3:c.
MP2 raises to $12.00, Hero calls $12.00, CO calls $12.00, BU folds, SB calls $10.00, BB folds.

Flop: ($52) 5:d, 6:h, 4:c (4 players)
SB checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks, CO bets $38.00, SB calls $38.00, MP2 folds, Hero calls $38.00.

Turn: ($166) 3:h (3 players)
SB bets $112.00, Hero calls $112.00, CO raises to $372.00(All-In), SB folds, Hero calls $238.00(All-In).

River: ($1000) 8:c (0 players)
Hero gets uncalled bet back.

Final Pot: $762.
Results follow:

Hero shows three of a kind, threes(3:s 3:c).
CO shows a straight, eight high(5:c 7:c).

CO wins with a straight, eight high(5:c 7:c).


5 replies
justkyle88
Joined: 07.05.2008

In most cases I would assume we are way behind and only hoping for a split or a boat?


bumbi999
Joined: 12.03.2008

Fold flop or in turn?


justkyle88
Joined: 07.05.2008

IMHO I would fold flop, OPSD looks nice, but even if u hit your straight, u could still be at the dumb end of it.

Is raising PF an option?


TheLastNail
Joined: 30.05.2008

i am betting myself on flop with oesd alw /except for the case there would be some hyperagro lag behind me/.. why dont u?

as played i think a clear fold on turn, tho it sucks, but 3 handed still on flop u can be confident in only drawing to pairing outs, the most obv draw completes, and esp after the donk of sb too, u re just in an awful spot..

: flop: b/f yourself, and reeval turn.. if getting also 2 callers u can even than c/f pretty much i think esp if sb donks like here

as played: just fold turn


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

I think i'd check and fold to a reasonable bet on the flop.

Board: 4s 5h 6d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 20.895% 19.78% 01.11% 1230805 69375.00 { 33 }
Hand 1: 49.480% 47.41% 02.07% 2950171 128769.00 { TT-44, 86s+, 76s, 65s, 54s }
Hand 2: 29.625% 26.94% 02.69% 1676200 167253.00 { TT-88, 86s, 75s+, 43s }

Handrange 1 is CO, handrange 2 is the SB; both of them at the flop.
So first of all your equity is bad - of course these are narrow ranges, but i don't think CO bluffs on this board and SB will definitely not "bluffcall".
Furthermore you don't have much implied odds but some reverse implied odds.

I also thought about leading out, but i think since you're 4way you'll often get called by some pair+straightdraw type of hand or an overpair; maybe even some scared 2pair decides to flat your bet.
So you won't fold out much better hands at the flop.
The problem is that while there are some scarecards to barrel they're all in your opponents handrange.
So to win the pot by betting you'd need to bet twice most of the time - but you won't win that often.