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[Closed] 0.50/1 FR - 6 hands - "contibet?"

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furious
Joined: 14.05.2006

Hi,

6 hands more or less about what to do after the flop and on later streets after raising preflop...

1.)
PartyPoker 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (10 handed) Recorded and converted with HandRecorder

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J♥, A♣
3 folds, MP1 calls, 1 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, SB calls, BB calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (8.00 SB) 6♠, 3♦, 8♦ (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (4.00 BB) K♠ (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks.

River: (4.00 BB) 3♥ (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 4.00 BB.

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2.)
Here i wanted to do a Raise Turn for free Showdown, but im not sure if its right there...

SB [29.4|5.9|0.50|20.0]

PartyPoker 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (10 handed) Recorded and converted with HandRecorder

Preflop: Hero is BU with T♦, J♥
7 folds, Hero raises, SB calls, 1 folds.

Flop: (5.00 SB) 2♠, 9♥, 5♣ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) Q♠ (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB calls.

River: (7.50 BB) 3♦ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 7.50 BB.

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3.)
PartyPoker 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (9 handed) Recorded and converted with HandRecorder

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 5♠, 5♦
1 folds, UTG+2 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, 1 folds, BU calls, 1 folds, BB calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 9♣, K♦, 2♣ (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero checks, BU bets, BB calls, UTG+2 folds, Hero folds.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 9♦ (2 players)
BB checks, BU bets, BB folds.

Final Pot: 6.25 BB.

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4.)
SB [14.8|10.6|3.81|29.2]

PartyPoker 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (10 handed) Recorded and converted with HandRecorder

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q♥, J♦
3 folds, MP1 calls, Hero raises, MP3 calls, 2 folds, SB calls, 1 folds, MP1 calls.

Flop: (9.00 SB) 4♦, 6♠, 9♥ (4 players)
SB checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks.

Turn: (4.50 BB) J♥ (4 players)
SB bets, MP1 folds, Hero raises, MP3 folds, SB 3-bets, Hero calls.

River: (10.50 BB) 2♥ (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB.

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5.)
CO [48.2|2.4|0.43|33.7]
MP2 [20.8|14.6|10.00|27.3]

PartyPoker 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (10 handed) Recorded and converted with HandRecorder

Preflop: Hero is BB with A♠, K♦
UTG calls, 3 folds, MP2 raises, 1 folds, CO calls, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets, UTG calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) 5♣, T♥, 9♠ (4 players)
Hero bets, UTG folds, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) 5♥ (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO checks.

River: (7.75 BB) T♠ (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: 7.75 BB.

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6.)
UTG+2 [33.0|8.2|0.69|33.0]

PartyPoker 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (9 handed) Recorded and converted with HandRecorder

Preflop: Hero is SB with T♠, T♦
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, 3 folds, CO calls, Hero raises, 1 folds, UTG+2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (7.00 SB) A♣, 4♥, 9♦ (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG+2 calls, CO folds.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 6♦ (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG+2 calls.

River: (6.50 BB) J♠ (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG+2 raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.50 BB.


6 replies

1) it is ok, i wouldn't bet into three opponents on this board its a bit connected and 2 suited so just take a freecard and hope to improve.

2) Neither do you have fold euqity here against this passive guy nor do you have showdown value so better just call.

3) just call preflop please.

4) Fold preflop! This hand is a fold no matter if you play with the Starting Hands Chart or the Open Raise Chart.
n a Full Ring Game you want to see a very cheap flop with QJ.

5) nice one

6) You can almost play c/f turn here against this guy. He is very passive. At least at the river play c/f.


furious
Joined: 14.05.2006

Originally posted by Stefan1000
3) just call preflop please.

4) Fold preflop! This hand is a fold no matter if you play with the Starting Hands Chart or the Open Raise Chart.
n a Full Ring Game you want to see a very cheap flop with QJ.

dont have stats anymore, but those were planned as iso-raises ("raising one limper")


3) You can do this, but watch out with these hands they are not easy to play postflop. I don't know your playing experience but a safe way to play these hands is just call them for set value.

4) I know what you mean. But i didn't say call it. I said this is a FOLD
No raise here, please. This hand is easily dominated. And the SHC and the ORC are build to avoid such situations.

Do you know Poker Stove and how to work with it?

If you don't know how to work with it please have a look at this article:
http://www.pokerstrategy.org.uk/strategy/48

And then do me a favor. Analyse how much hands your opponent must play[What VPIP must your opponent have] so that you have 50% Equity.

I could give you the answer but i think it is better if you do this by yourself. It will help you to understand that a hand like QJ lacks at Equity but shines at Playability.
That means you want to see a cheap flop with a hand like QJ because on the flop most of the time you have an easy decision how to play it.

But anyway Playability or not this is a fold. So please fold it the next time. Believe me it will cost you money long term.


furious
Joined: 14.05.2006

ok... 51% vpip needed... thats hard. I thought i could take the iso-raise-chart as provided...
there QJo is listed as raise against 20/10, 25/15 30/20, ...

Im sure that was a big leak in my play, so i will concentrate on SHC and ORC when first in and leave other charts unused till i really get a feeling for my equity.
thanks a lot. ;)


You can use this chart of course but first have a look at the ORC or SHC.

So for example:
When you are in the CO and somebody limps take a look at the ORC. There you see that you can raise QJo from the CO as a first in raise. So now you have to find out if you have an edge over the limper therefore you can use the isolation raise chart.

Kind regards,
Stefan


furious
Joined: 14.05.2006

omg... thats something i didnt realize... i kind of "overlooked" it in the article. of course, now it makes sense. Thanks a lot.

stay tuned for more hands. I dont think its my only leak... :)