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PocketAcesJohn
Joined: 19.06.2008

Well in berzergers exarmple it is actually correct to fold AA. For the reasson that your not trying to accumilate chips in DoN's. Most importantly by folding here about 95% of the time you'll cash as 5 players are very likley going to be bust after the hand in question. Call what you may win 50% of the time? Folding here you cash alot more than calling.

Question for Berzerger:

Are $53 DoN's really as soft as that exarmples making it look?


SoyCD
Joined: 20.02.2008

Originally posted by vilmantas
Well the odds were still in hero's favor so he has +ev. Am I wrong? Although I understand not wanting to gamble.

EDIT: damn, still thinking about this one. Kind of weird situation.

The call is only +EV in a Chip perspective but not in terms of $EV. In SNGs it is very important to differentiate between the Chip EV of a decision and the real money ($EV) since these are not necessarily the same (especially in bubble situations such as this DON example).

More about this can be found in the ICM articles in our SNG strategy section :)

Best regards
SoyCD


ihufa
Joined: 18.03.2008

Originally posted by Berzerger

Originally posted by vilmantas
Dude, it was pre flop all in. Show me a guy who fold AA pre flop and I will show you an idiot.

Kindly point out the idiot, I'm intrigued.

$53 NLH Double up
Cake Poker No Limit Hold'em Tournament - 20/40 Blinds - 10 players

SB:   1500
BB:   1500
UTG1: 1500
UTG2: 1500
UTG3: 1500
MP1:  1500
MP2:  1500
MP3:  1500
CO:   1500
BU:   1500

Pre Flop: (60) Hero is CO with A :heart:A :club:
UTG1 raises to 1500, UTG2 calls 1500, UTG3 calls 1500, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, hero folds

MP3


ihufa
Joined: 18.03.2008

i get a prize, yes?


vilmantas
Joined: 01.07.2009

Yes you have won one thousand Zollers. You will get them after a small deposit of 10000$ to my account. ;)


Berzerger
Joined: 24.03.2008

Originally posted by PocketAcesJohn
Are $53 DoN's really as soft as that exarmples making it look?

Goodness no... I edited the example as an illustration. However, I've seen people doing pretty weird stuff, limp/call with 84, raise/4bet/call with AQs, etc. This goes for Stars though, I don't play SnG on Cake anymore because apparently neither does anyone else. Concerning profitability, fish are everywhere, they basically surround you. Spot 'em, mark 'em, hunt 'em. The latter is more practical with cash games, but the principle remains: find players with weaknesses, determine their leaks and start exploiting.


vilmantas
Joined: 01.07.2009

Guys I need to ask you a favor. Apparently my friend can not transfer 20$ because he transfered ~20 bucks some time ago and now few months have to pass so he could transfer any amount of cash. I need someone from full tilt poker room to re-transfer the money from him to me. Someone trustworthy :)


excelgeo
Joined: 17.10.2008

Originally posted by vilmantas
Guys I need to ask you a favor. Apparently my friend can not transfer 20$ because he transfered ~20 bucks some time ago and now few months have to pass so he could transfer any amount of cash. I need someone from full tilt poker room to re-transfer the money from him to me. Someone trustworthy :)

dodgy dodgy!!


vilmantas
Joined: 01.07.2009