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[Closed] Value, protection and perhaps a little paranoia (3 hands NL25 SH)

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A bad beat when deep followed by a <del>down</del> persistently horizontal swing has granted me a little extra time at NL25, so I thought I'd post another batch of hands where the mistakes at least aren't obvious enough for me to be sure of a better line.

1. Villain is a calling station, more or less. Maybe I should've bet the flop and turn heavier but he's not loose enough for that to get me more value, although perhaps I need the protection with a double suited and well connected board on the turn. Him coming alive as he does on the river invariably signals a hand, but I couldn't consider folding.

PartyPoker $25 NL Hold'em (5 handed) HandRecorder

Stacks & Stats
BB ($35.22)
Hero ($39.55)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A♥, A♠
Hero raises to $1, 3 folds, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2.10) 9♠, T♦, J♠ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.50, BB calls $1.50.

Turn: ($5.10) 6♦ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3, BB calls $3.

River: ($11.10) 6♥ (2 players)
BB bets $5, Hero calls $5.

Final Pot: $21.10.

2. Bad blind defence turns into a probable best hand on the flop but meets a scare card on the turn. With any queen beating me it seemed better to try to either escape cheaply or get some value out of a weaker hand. With the river card I was even more likely to be behind and content to take the free showdown. (Villain is loose preflop and a loose stealer in particular but otherwise no reads.)

PartyPoker $25 NL Hold'em (5 handed) HandRecorder

Stacks & Stats
SB ($60.94)
Hero ($32.45)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T♠, K♦
3 folds, SB raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2, SB calls $1.25.

Flop: ($4.00) A♣, T♥, K♥ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.75, SB calls $2.75.

Turn: ($9.50) J♦ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($9.50) A♥ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $9.50.

3. Same villain as hand 2 (actually took place before hand 2, I'm working up through my recorded hands). I've got a good draw on the flop and may be ahead, but the second pair on the turn is worrying as I may now be behind even if I make my flush. I don't assign any particular meaning to the min bets, he's made them before with nothing much. Pairing up on the river isn't reassuring at all so I check behind.

PartyPoker $25 NL Hold'em (6 handed) HandRecorder

Stacks & Stats
CO ($80.69)
Hero ($25)

Preflop: Hero is BU with K♦, A♦
2 folds, CO calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, 1 folds, BB calls $1, CO calls $1.

Flop: ($3.85) 4♣, 7♦, 4♦ (3 players)
BB checks, CO bets $0.25, Hero raises to $2, BB folds, CO calls $1.75.

Turn: ($7.85) 7♣ (2 players)
CO bets $0.25, Hero calls $0.25.

River: ($8.35) K♠ (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $8.35.


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Alaton
Joined: 21.02.2006

As a quick note, I'm not a master of BSS-game but I'll give some comments anyways.

1) Given the information that he is a callingstation, a bet on the turn seems necessary. I would bet a bit more here, like $3.50-$4 to grant good protection. If you get raised you can get away against such a passive opponent.
The Bet on the River gives you great odds and villain could only be wanting to get a Pair of Jacks to the Showdown cheaply and doesn't want to call a big bet from you, which is the reason why a call is good with me here.
Raising doesn't make sense and folding is really weak against such a small bet, you only have to win in ~25% to break even so we have an easy call.

Against aggressive opponents a check behind on the turn might be an option, because they will check/raise you with many draws and you could end up folding the best hand.
So here I would suggest check behind turn and call riverbet with an unscary card falling. (this is a spot where Pot control is more important than Protection, since you could already be drawing dead!)

2) Preflop would be a call for me and not a reraise, since he is loose he will call your bet nearly always anyways und you just build a pot with a weak hand. Reraising with suited connectors or pairs is the thing I sometimes do here.
Bet on the flop is fine and I would've also been really alert of the turn- and rivercard. A Bet there doesn't really make sense, as he won't call with a worse hand anyways, especially on the river. So checking the hand down is fine.

3) If you raise on the flop (which I would also do), I would make a bigger Raise to get him out, like $2.50-3$ here.
Call turn is fine but on the River you have a pretty easy Valuebet. His line speaks for a Pocketpair, something like 55,66,88. I wouldn't really put him on a 7 here, he wouldn't check a 7 on the river seeing you didn't make action on the turn.
I would suggest a Valuebet of maybe 3$, so that an Underpair has an easy call given the good odds.


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