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ElleDriver
Joined: 25.08.2005

1) do you call this down ? vs. unkown

PartyPoker 2.00/4.00 Limit Hold'em (5 handed) HandRecorder

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7♠, 7♦
2 folds, BU calls, SB calls, Hero raises, BU calls, SB calls.

Flop: (6.00 SB) 8♥, J♥, J♠ (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, BU calls, SB folds.

Turn: (4.00 BB) 6♦ (2 players)
Hero bets, BU raises, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 7.00 BB.

2) is c/f river or even c/f turn the better play here ?

PartyPoker 2.00/4.00 Limit Hold'em (4 handed) HandRecorder

Preflop: Hero is SB with K♠, Q♥
CO calls, BU calls, Hero raises, 1 folds, CO calls, BU calls.

Flop: (7.00 SB) A♠, 5♣, 5♥ (3 players)
Hero bets, CO calls, BU calls.

Turn: (5.00 BB) J♦ (3 players)
Hero bets, CO calls, BU folds.

River: (7.00 BB) J♣ (2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 10.00 BB.

3) what do you think here without stats ?
PartyPoker 2.00/4.00 Limit Hold'em (6 handed) HandRecorder

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4♥, 8♣
UTG calls, 2 folds, BU calls, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: (4.00 SB) 2♥, 3♦, 4♠ (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, BU calls, SB folds.

Turn: (3.50 BB) Q♥ (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, BU calls.

River: (6.50 BB) T♠ (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, BU bets, Hero folds, UTG folds.

Final Pot: 7.50 BB.

4) 3-bet turn here ?

PartyPoker 2.00/4.00 Limit Hold'em (6 handed) HandRecorder

Preflop: Hero is SB with K♥, K♠
1 folds, MP raises, 1 folds, BU 3-bets, Hero caps, BB calls, MP calls, BU calls.

Flop: (16.00 SB) 6♥, 4♠, 5♣ (4 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, MP folds, BU calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 4♣ (3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, BU raises, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (15.50 BB) 9♣ (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, BU checks.

Final Pot: 15.50 BB.

5) wa/wb vs. 4 opponents: do you c/r here on the turn to get rid of the other players ?
PartyPoker 2.00/4.00 Limit Hold'em (6 handed) HandRecorder

Preflop: Hero is BB with A♠, 3♦
2 folds, CO raises, BU calls, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (8.00 SB) A♣, Q♥, J♣ (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, BU raises, SB calls, Hero calls, CO calls.

Turn: (8.00 BB) 8♦ (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks, BU bets, SB calls, Hero calls, CO calls.

River: (12.00 BB) 2♦ (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks, BU bets, SB folds, Hero calls, CO folds.

Final Pot: 14.00 BB.

thx in advance !


2 replies

1) I would fold turn

2) I would check/fold river

3) Tough one- probably fold river.

4) No, I don´t think that 3-bet turn is very good move (BU might have pair of aces that beat you). I would also bet/call river (most of the times BU has pair of queens:))

5) I don´t have yet improved hands chart, thats why I don´t play that kind of hand. But when you have top pair with weak kicker- I would prefer check/call flop, turn and river. This way you don´t lose a lot of money, also some times you are ahead (against KQ, KK) so sometimes you win that pot.


Remoh
Joined: 11.03.2006

1) Firstly, I wouldn't raise it preflop. Against two players without position we can only be happy if we hit our set otherwise every overcard is stupid.
But with the preflop raise I would play it like you did.

2) I would play it bet/fold turn and check/fold river because I only can catch a pure bluff and this has to be 1:4 to be +EV.

3) That's a very hard hand. I think folding is the right way although I would call it because I wanna know if he draws to his T or if he only calls his hitten Q on the turn

4) because of his 3-bet preflop I'm thinking that he is on a overpair and every pair but Aces we beat or he is on the nutflushdraw and makes a semibluff. So I would 3-bet turn, call a possibility cap and check/call the river.

5) Firstly, I wouldn't defend offsuited babyaces in multiway pots. If we hit the Ace the danger of domination is ver high and otherwise if we hit the low bycard we have nothing because there will be overcards.
I would check the flop and if CO bets and BU calls I would call, if BU raises I would fold and if BU fold I would raise it to make it heads up.
check/calling turn and river is good because it is a wa/wb situation.