[Closed] set on flop vs utg Cbet

just bet 600. You cant check cause he will cbh too many times. If he thinks his hand is good enough for bet/call on the flop, he sure will call a small bet amount on the turn.

on flop when he has strong hand or good draw we r getting $$ in no matter what we do
i raise smaller (almost min cos stack sizes) to give villain room to bluff and to let him overplay weak hands

maybe shove on flop is better (cos it looks weaker) but as i said if he has good hand/draw he will shove...... so main concern is how can to make him overplay air/marginal hands

my initial plan was to bet like 1/3 pot on almost any turn and shove river or to check turn value bet river if he checks on turn

the problem is that we have pot size bet left on turn (cos i raise smaller, if i had raise like 800-850 we will have an easy 2/3 pot shove on turn)

so when we have nuts on turn we want to trick villain to make mistake, we dont want to bet too big and scare him so i think betting like 1/3 pot (as u say 600 and that is also 1/3 of our stack) i fine and checking turn for bluff induce is fine too

like preflop as bb may call as well ,

on flop you hit your card , he will cbet allmost every time so would check/call , betting in reality show a lot of strenght so he must now think you hit that flop pretty hard

on turn , its pretty much made your hand , think he must have some of this like AQ or flush draw , cant realy put him on 7s but could be straight draw & hope its not Qs , so dont think you can check/bet again but it would get the chips in

so gonna check/shove turn & shove river regardless

My first thoughts were to either check/call or check raise turn to induce a bet but this leaves open 2 possibilities.
1 River is Q, we are screwed
2 River is spade, we get no more chips in the pot.
So I think all things considered, a bet of a third to half of pot is good.
If villain raises we can get it all in, if he calls, he also calls river value bet, maybe even a shove

don´t c/rai flop, since this way it is very hard himt o call you down with QT or smt, but if you c/r to 750$ and then bet 800$ on the turn people would shove there Qx hands since they beat draws

Originally posted by Kaitz20
don´t c/rai flop, since this way it is very hard himt o call you down with QT or smt, but if you c/r to 750$ and then bet 800$ on the turn people would shove there Qx hands since they beat draws

but if we bet 1/2 of our stack on turn when board pairs we r showing strength there so i dont expect villain to shove any hand that he woudnt shove on flop

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Originally posted by TheRebuz

Originally posted by Kaitz20
don´t c/rai flop, since this way it is very hard himt o call you down with QT or smt, but if you c/r to 750$ and then bet 800$ on the turn people would shove there Qx hands since they beat draws

but if we bet 1/2 of our stack on turn when board pairs we r showing strength there, so i dont expect villain to shove any hand that he woudnt shove on flop

well that is your opinion.
To my experience players usually doesn´t believe you and either calling down with Qx+ or shoving on the turn

ok i'll try that play and see what happens

but the thing is that if he has Qx or better he will bet them on turn any way if we check + he might bet some draws on turn if we check too which he is folding if we bet on turn.. dont u think?

i dont see him betting draws on the turn too often. i think i wouldn't eighter. sure your small c/r on the flop could have the goal to freeze the action, but against unknowns i think they have a strong hand more often than not.
i would even check behind a Q prob. I think. from villains point if view i wouldnt be happy getting 50 BB in with a Q vs a flop c/r. i'd check behind the turn, reevaluate on the river and prob. call a small bet from random busted draws, or even fold

after all, i think u should definitely bet the turn, i'd say about 650 to give him a cheap price on the river shove once he makes the mistake calling here. (i see villain calling a lot more Qs than betting himself)

I prefer to donk the flop
looks not that strong like a c/r and they will call much hands
an turn I bet again after my flop donk

as played
it depends on players
but on this limit ... they wont fold a Q or a strong draw ... so I just bet the turn.
check is just better if the player is very bluffy ... but then he will bluff on river not on turn ... so u had to check river but check turn and river is no good line
whould u bluff c/r on flop ... u whould bet the turn ... so u also should do, if u are strong

overall I see no weaker hand, he should bet on turn
a Qx he cb ... also a draw ... if he bluffs, he will do on river
so u have to bet turn

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PokerStars - $10+$1|25/50 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: 4,506.00
Hero (SB): 2,725.00
BB: 8,455.00
UTG: 3,683.00
UTG+1: 3,150.00
MP: 3,880.00
MP+1: 3,000.00
LP: 3,485.00
CO: 9,492.00

Hero posts SB 25.00, BB posts BB 50.00

Pre Flop: (pot: 75.00) Hero has 6♦ 6♣

UTG raises to 150.00, fold, MP calls 150.00, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 125.00, fold

Flop: (500.00, 3 players) 7♠ Q♠ 6♥
Hero checks, UTG bets 300.00, fold, Hero raises to 700.00, UTG calls 400.00

Turn: (1900.00, 2 players) 7♣
Hero checks, UTG checks

River: (1900.00, 2 players) 6♠
Hero ?????,

hero has ~1900 stack left behind

question is low bet or push ... because u have nutz

he cant call straigth or flush, becuase there are allready 2 pairs on board
he will call a 7 on ur push and maybe a Q

if u low bets he will call some weaker Q and maybe a straigth or flush, maybe PP like 99 or TT

I am not sure whats best ... but I think I just bet 700 ... so he will calls most hands
I dont like push, becuase its no good board for a bluff, becuase all hitet