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TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

avg stack ~ 6k, no specif reads got on this table like 1-2 orbit before this hand, this is first hand that i played at this table

guy min raise screams strength (qq+,AK imo) and i'm guessing from his 3bet size that he is a donk and will stack off with over pair if we hit board hard, so we have a lot of impl. odds and an easy call pre imo.

flop: we get there :f_cool:...... he should be Cbeting 100% here, so I check

he Cbet, hero -> raise/call, shove or call? thoughts, why?? if call on flop -> play on turn - if brick hits, bet into him or check again and shove - if :spade: hit
PokerStars - $10+$1|100/200 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: 1,534.00
SB: 10,033.00
BB: 5,660.00
UTG: 12,592.00
Hero (UTG+1): 16,040.00
MP: 19,482.00
MP+1: 9,527.00
LP: 1,419.00
CO: 4,175.00

SB posts SB 100.00, BB posts BB 200.00

Pre Flop: (pot: 300.00) Hero has 9♠ T♠

fold, Hero raises to 499.00, fold, MP+1 raises to 798.00, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 299.00

Flop: (1896.00, 2 players) 7♠ 3♠ J♠
Hero checks, MP+1 bets 1,200.00, Hero ?????????


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Anssi
Joined: 03.07.2008

Raising is the only option here. He will go broke on flop with: AK w/spade, any pair with spade, probably all overpairs without a spade. Calling is very bad since he is likely not going to fire another barrel on turn since he should take free card on turn most of the time and 4th spade is something you definately don't want to see. Then you are either beat or he won't put any more money in pot.

I think check/shoving is the best line but I guess you can make some kind of minraise to induce a shove. I just don't know if there really is enough stack left for him to shove there anyways and he might just call with just hands now to see cheap turn. The more I think about it check-shoving is the only line.


larseda
Joined: 06.08.2006

Originally posted by Anssi
Raising is the only option here. He will go broke on flop with: AK w/spade, any pair with spade, probably all overpairs without a spade. Calling is very bad since he is likely not going to fire another barrel on turn since he should take free card on turn most of the time and 4th spade is something you definately don't want to see. Then you are either beat or he won't put any more money in pot.

I think check/shoving is the best line but I guess you can make some kind of minraise to induce a shove. I just don't know if there really is enough stack left for him to shove there anyways and he might just call with just hands now to see cheap turn. The more I think about it check-shoving is the only line.

#2
U have to push or big raise after ur check
again a fish u also can just raise to 3,7k ... because he wont notice hes commited and on turn u shove the rest

but overall I prefer to donk this flop, because he will often hold overpair or overcards with FD ... both he wont fold and on a raise he can push it
and he cant cb with overcards and FD
He wont contibet this board so often, because there ae many draws possible
and also many players think, that raise/call pre is a strong becauce, its the line they play AA or KK


TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

Originally posted by TheRebuz
avg stack ~ 6k, no specif reads got on this table like 1-2 orbit before this hand, this is first hand that i played at this table

guy min raise screams strength (qq+,AK imo) and i'm guessing from his 3bet size that he is a donk and will stack off with over pair if we hit board hard, so we have a lot of impl. odds and an easy call pre imo.

flop: we get there :f_cool:...... he should be Cbeting 100% here, so I check

so from mine read that he is a donk, and he has big hand KK+, AK im expecting him to Cbet 100%here with whole range,
but to just call more often (not raise) if we lead into him with KK+ without :spade: & AK with :spade: and fold AK without :spade: and maybe even call flop /fold turn with KK+ without :spade: if :spade: hits on turn

i think that c/r to ~4k on flop is best and call a shove, shove any turn if he just calls on flop (although if :spade: hit on turn it will be ugly spot)