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ihufa
Joined: 18.03.2008

Originally posted by Hahaownedlolz

Originally posted by ihufa

Originally posted by Hahaownedlolz

Originally posted by taavi1337

Originally posted by Hahaownedlolz
Fixed Limit by the way is 100% math.

Thanks, didn't know this. I have played FL for 15 months, now I have to learn everything from the beginning again.

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Originally posted by ihufa

Originally posted by Hahaownedlolz

Originally posted by ihufa

Originally posted by Hahaownedlolz

Originally posted by taavi1337

Originally posted by Hahaownedlolz
Fixed Limit by the way is 100% math.

Thanks, didn't know this. I have played FL for 15 months, now I have to learn everything from the beginning again.

[ ] Attempt to be funny succeeded.

[x] Attempt to be smart failed

[ ] Attempt to be funny succeeded.
[X] Attempt to be an ass succeeded.

[x] Mission accomplished


andreibalint
Joined: 11.04.2009

Originally posted by ihufa

Originally posted by Hahaownedlolz

Originally posted by ihufa

Originally posted by Hahaownedlolz

Originally posted by taavi1337

Originally posted by Hahaownedlolz
Fixed Limit by the way is 100% math.

Thanks, didn't know this. I have played FL for 15 months, now I have to learn everything from the beginning again.

[ ] Attempt to be funny succeeded.

[x] Attempt to be smart failed

[ ] Attempt to be funny succeeded.
[X] Attempt to be an ass succeeded.

[x] Mission accomplished

Define Accomplished.

Hu is harder then fullring because there you HAVE TO play LAG. That is play a lot of hands agressively. And because of that you'll often have a crappy hand and your opponent will have a crappy hand also.

FR you have TPTK+ great, no need to overanalyse the situation (not at micro/small stakes).

I think your question is normal for a beggining player. You don't need to think "what poker variant is the most profitable", you need to think "what poker variant gives ME the most $/hour with my skills".

For me it's simple. Play 180man 12$ turbo sng's. 8 hours continiously 24 tabling. I should make at least 4-5k per month. Problem is i don't think i'm capable to grind this much.

Make your own math based on sharkscope/pokerprolabs/pokertableratings winrates and figure out with how much you play and what roi you have/expect to have which variant is the most profitable. Probably it will be some form of sngs.

Rules of the thumb for sng's (hey you big sharks out there, if i am wrong feel free to tell me) : the bigger the tournament (the more tables it has) the more $/hour you can make. That's at least because bigger tournaments have higher variance so less "pro" players will play them. To beat this in HU you have to multitable.

So in general think that if you want more money you have to risk more. Is that simple.


the bigger the tournament (the more tables it has) the more $/hour you can make. That's at least because bigger tournaments have higher variance so less "pro" players will play them. To beat this in HU you have to multitable.

I find that MTTs are harder then HU or 6-handed Sit&Go. I think MTTs players are more skilled on average, as you can more esily find beginners in 1 table SnG


Originally posted by PocketAcesJohn
Rank which £1 coin is worth more:

A shiney one,
A dirty one,
A smelly one,
A dented one.

A shiney one!! :f_cool:
mostly because its not smelly, dirty or dented


andreibalint
Joined: 11.04.2009

I find that MTTs are harder then HU or 6-handed Sit&Go. I think MTTs players are more skilled on average, as you can more esily find beginners in 1 table SnG

Not for playing standard TAG pokerstrategy.com game online. The only real problem i can think of in MTTs is when you are desperately short but you can't do much about it because most of the time someone else acts before you, so no fold equity.

If in MTT's you start being naughty, indeed they complicate a little. And i mean playing more hands, doing rather loose re-steals, etc.

MTT's are the hardest for your brain because of the swings, but that's about it.

Begginers in 1 table sng's? Show me where when you play 10$+. Your standard profitable tables with max 1 reg are a hell of a search sometimes.


vonki
Joined: 18.03.2008

The question about where you can gain the biggest edge against your opponent is quite easy in my oppinion. Probably in all of them, with enough work and effort put into your game.

However, there are other factors that matter. As for razz and stuf and all that, there is not close to as much traffic as there is in NLHE/OMAHA. It's also hard finding alot of good studying material, and people to discuss theory with in these types of games.

Like many stated NLHE and Omaha is probably the best way to go about it, and HU is probably the choice where you can develope a decent edge. By no means is it easy to achieve this though. The most important thing of all is being able to read your opponent and analyze his mistakes. Learning this is a process of it's own, and it takes endless hours of studying and playing to get good at it.

I would probably think the easiest way is to start out on FR microlimits, learn all the basics and then convert into SH for more postflop play and eventually, convert into HU player. I mean if it was all that easy to obtain a huge edge in poker, we would all be pro's by now

The key is dedication and patience.