[Closed] 33 in BB bubble time

I cant stand calling with low pocket pairs and I always fold them, with no fold equity and situations reversed its a good shoving hand but since I'm usually at best facing overcards and sometimes overpairs I'm usually coinflipping and I tend to avoid coinflips in non-desperate situations.

I think its a waste of time to think about his range it really doesnt matter theres no different to our winning equity if he's shoving 5% vs 70% you are still almost always up against overcards and overpairs.

As for this argument about shoving ranges you are both right. I agree with chenny that the shoving range SHOULD be wide and I also agree with you that it isn't wide, people don't shove as wide in this situation as they should.

I'm gonna give you my exact range in a second for this situation shoving on the button its pretty tight but this is a safe range against most blinds, if the blinds are really tight I open this up considerably:

22+, A3s+, A4o+, K8o+, K6s+, Q7s+, Q9o+, J7s+, J9o+,
T9o, T7s+,98o, 97s,87o, 86s, 76s, 65s

Originally posted by fastroller
I cant stand calling with low pocket pairs and I always fold them, with no fold equity and situations reversed its a good shoving hand but since I'm usually at best facing overcards and sometimes overpairs I'm usually coinflipping and I tend to avoid coinflips in non-desperate situations.

I think its a waste of time to think about his range it really doesnt matter theres no different to our winning equity if he's shoving 5% vs 70% you are still almost always up against overcards and overpairs.

As for this argument about shoving ranges you are both right. I agree with chenny that the shoving range SHOULD be wide and I also agree with you that it isn't wide, people don't shove as wide in this situation as they should.

I'm gonna give you my exact range in a second for this situation shoving on the button its pretty tight but this is a safe range against most blinds, if the blinds are really tight I open this up considerably:

22+, A3s+, A4o+, K8o+, K6s+, Q7s+, Q9o+, J7s+, J9o+,
T9o, T7s+,98o, 97s,87o, 86s, 76s, 65s

r u shoving that range on bubble too (2-3 from thne $$), with 12bb stack vs sb(50bb stack) and BB (33bb stack)?

Yea I try to ignore the bubble and try to make standard plays I'd normally make. I think its the best strategy although I do bubble sometimes and its frustrating especially in rebuys where the min cash isn't too bad.

A good tournament structure that teaches you to ignore the bubble are the 180 tourneys on stars where places 10-18 all pay the same amount and payouts are really top heavy, it forces you to go for it and play to make final table and hopefully win.

I don't mind shoving wide into big stacks because I think they will call me even lighter and theres a decent chance I will double up. I just bought SNG wizard and I'm going to try it out and see what shoves are profitable against standard shove calling ranges.

The key thing about his call is that he was calling it vs you, not some random Sunday player. Maybe he looked you up and saw you were good winning player, and vs your range you can't dispute that it was a good call.