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$0.25/$0.50 Limit Hold'em - 8 players

Pre Flop: (1.4 SB) Hero is SB with A :club: J :club:
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, BTN calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, BTN calls

Flop: (13 SB) 6 :spade: 5 :diamond: 9 :club: (6 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, MP2 raises, CO calls, BTN requests TIME, BTN calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls
10:1 pot odds, I definitely C w/ overcards here.

Turn: (11.5 BB) J :spade: (5 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets, CO raises, BTN calls, Hero folds, MP1 calls all in, MP2 calls
I hit top pair top kicker, but there is too much action. CC is too timid, R is too bold, so I pussy out and F. I thought what a disciplined lay-down it was until I saw the SD and realised that I folded the best hand (check out the hidden results to feel my pain). Highway to a subtle, hardly recognisible tilt. Why am I not brave enough to just 3B here? Perhaps too many 'bad beats' (they don't exist, I know!) have scarred my soul :)

River: (19.5 BB) J :heart: (4 players - 1 is all in)
MP2 checks, CO bets, BTN folds, MP2 folds

Final Pot: 19.5 BB
MP1 mucks 4s9h
CO shows Jd8s(three of a kind, Jacks)
CO wins 18.6 BB


3 replies
Epitaph
Joined: 29.07.2006

your line doesnt make ANY sense at all. why do you call the flop when you fold with a hit? besides that i fold this on the flop because - yes you have 10:1 - MP1 could easily 3bet and there could be even more action going on, you cant call even with 10:1 if you just fold a J or A turn anyways, so they arent really outs for you, are they?

i complete that preflop, you are oop and your hand is too weak to be played with initiative in a 6- or 7-way pot.
i check/fold on the flop
as played i donk the turn and evaluate after the action...


Dawnfall26
Joined: 30.07.2008

Hi!

I like to just complete preflop as well. Yes your hand has nice edge in this family pot but you are OOP with a hand that will find itself in quite a few difficult spots(like this one) and then keeping the pot small really come in handy.
Sure raise is no mistake but expect higher variance and a few more difficult decitions.

Flop call is pretty standard unless you have a read on MP2 that he raises just nuts. You are geting 1:10 with overs+BDFD which is enough for a call here even if there is more action to come(this is the curse of boosted preflop pot)

Turn I would donk(dont be afraid to play very straightforward in these multiway pots) as I dont want them to check behind some worse made hand as giving a freecard here would be a disaster.

As played its really though since now CO is showing a lot of strength(but still there are worse Jx...KJ,QJ,JT which would play like this or some FD+pair or 8T kindda hands)...so... its raise or fold situation and I think I like 3bet more and more since I think that in this huge pot you are often enough ahead and you should protect against these hands.
But I dont really blame you for folding since its not a very easy decition and your mistake might be marginal at best.


Play extreme cautious in pots with multiple limpers. You might very well be against set or 2pair on flop allready, so best play here is to fold.

As you learned in this hand, even if u get your pair, it very often can get you in even bigger trouble.
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cheers