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No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (10 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO (t1500)
Button (t1080)
Hero (SB) (t1470)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
UTG+2 (t1440)
MP1 (t2010)
MP2 (t1500)
MP3 (t1500)

Hero's M: 32.67

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3, 4
2 folds, UTG+2 calls t30, MP1 calls t30, 1 fold, MP3 calls t30, CO calls t30, 1 fold, Hero calls t15, BB checks

Flop: (t180) 6, 5, 7 (6 players)
Hero bets t150, BB calls t150, UTG+2 calls t150, 3 folds

Turn: (t630) 5 (3 players)
Hero bets t435, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls t435

River: (t1500) 10 (2 players)
Hero bets t855 (All-In), 1 fold

Total pot: t1500

Villain time-tank-folded.

Should have value bet the river? If I were behind, that T didn't change anything. Yep, prolly should have value bet.


8 replies
dangermowse
Joined: 24.10.2010

You DID value bet, just over half pot lol.


Something like 150, to induce a bluff or a least get called.


ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Well played. If villain is calling small bet he probably will call allin as well. Now villain probably had draw or 78 style hand.


LgWz
Joined: 26.05.2007

If villain is aggressive you can check/call, so he bluffs his missed draws (good part of his range). If not, then just bet.


Originally posted by LgWz
If villain is aggressive you can check/call, so he bluffs his missed draws (good part of his range). If not, then just bet.

Figured check calling was risky because of the two draws out there: higher straight and flush. Basicly any 8 or :heart: made my hand worthless. No reads on villain btw so i preffered a to protect my hand as much as I could.


ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Originally posted by L3ST

Originally posted by LgWz
If villain is aggressive you can check/call, so he bluffs his missed draws (good part of his range). If not, then just bet.

Figured check calling was risky because of the two draws out there: higher straight and flush. Basicly any 8 or :heart: made my hand worthless. No reads on villain btw so i preffered a to protect my hand as much as I could.

He meant check-calling river so villain could try to take pot with missed draw that has no showdown value.


LgWz
Joined: 26.05.2007

Originally posted by ghaleon

Originally posted by L3ST

Originally posted by LgWz
If villain is aggressive you can check/call, so he bluffs his missed draws (good part of his range). If not, then just bet.

Figured check calling was risky because of the two draws out there: higher straight and flush. Basicly any 8 or :heart: made my hand worthless. No reads on villain btw so i preffered a to protect my hand as much as I could.

He meant check-calling river so villain could try to take pot with missed draw that has no showdown value.

Yup! Definitely bet flop and turn!


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Perfect! Villain often has a made hand on this river, and we don't expect him to bluff with those made hands. However because villain is most likely retarded, shoving the river is good because he just thinks "herp derp i have 2 pair" and will often call with it. In fact this hand is a great example of how our play differs vs unknowns: against good opponents this river is a clear check/fold.