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[Closed] coaching NL bss QQ time to go broke ?

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hello ladies and gents.
i proudly present tomorrows topic for the coaching:

QQ, time to go broke?

many many users are allways wondering what to do with QQ against a 4bet or against a 5bet shove with pocket queens.

in order to find out when to call, when to shove, and when to fold! we will do tomorrows coaching.

as usual feel free to post your own QQ hands in this thread.

greetings.

grummeler


20 replies

#1

villian is very unknown
vpip 25/ pfr 21 / 3bet 14.3% / hands 24

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($50)
BB ($50)
Hero (UTG) ($50)
MP ($108.45)
CO ($101.80)
Button ($60.45)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q♦, Q♥
Hero bets $1.75, 2 folds, Button raises $6, 2 folds, Hero raises $13.75, Button raises $54.45 (All-In), Hero calls $34.50 (All-In)

Flop: ($100.75) A♠, 4♠, 10:spade: (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($100.75) 9♠ (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($100.75) 9♥ (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $100.75


#2

here a spot where its not a preflop question but a postflop.

villian: vpip49/ pfr 43/ 3bet 38,5 / af 2.0 / foldtocbet 0% / hands 108

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP ($25)
Hero (CO) ($45.19)
Button ($107.20)
SB ($25.67)
BB ($39.50)
UTG ($31.27)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q♥, Q♠
2 folds, Hero bets $0.85, Button raises $2.90, 2 folds, Hero raises $7.15, Button calls $5.10

Flop: ($16.35) 3♥, 9♠, 7♦ (2 players)
Hero bets $13.25, Button calls $13.25

Turn: ($42.85) 4♠ (2 players)
Hero bets $23.94 (All-In), Button calls $23.94

River: ($90.73) 8♠ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $90.73


#3

villian: vpip 19/ pfr 16 / 3bet 2.4 / 4bet 50% (2) / af 2.8 / contibet 86% / hands 113

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP ($57.30)
CO ($191.90)
Button ($50)
Hero (SB) ($50)
BB ($51.15)
UTG ($54.70)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q♥, Q♠
1 fold, MP bets $1.50, 1 fold, Button calls $1.50, Hero raises $6.75, 1 fold, MP raises $13.50, 1 fold, Hero raises $43 (All-In), MP calls $35

Flop: ($102) 10:heart:, 4♦, 8♠ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($102) 3♦ (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($102) 3♣ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $102


#4
villian coldcall: unknown, just 15 hands so far
villian (3bet): vpip 24/pfr 19/ 3bet 7.1 / af 4.0 / contibet 71% / hands 228

Pot-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (Button) ($123.70)
SB ($58.70)
BB ($142.55)
UTG ($20)
MP ($77.70)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q♦, Q♣
UTG (poster) checks, MP calls $0.50, Hero bets $2.75, SB calls $2.50, BB raises $10, 2 folds, Hero calls $7.75, SB calls $7.75

Flop: ($32.50) 7♦, 7♣, 5♥ (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $16, Hero calls $16, 1 fold

Turn: ($64.50) 9♣ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($64.50) 8♠ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Total pot: $64.50


#5

villian: vpip19 / pfr 18 / 12.5 3bet / af inf. / contibet 100% / 96 hands

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($67)
Hero (MP) ($103.05)
CO ($67.55)
Button ($20.75)
SB ($17.75)
BB ($26.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q♦, Q♣
1 fold, Hero bets $1.75, CO raises $5.25, 3 folds, Hero calls $3.50

Flop: ($11.25) 2♥, J♣, 8♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $6, Hero calls $6

Turn: ($23.25) 3♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $11, Hero calls $11

River: ($45.25) 7♣ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Total pot: $45.25


gadget51
Joined: 23.06.2008

Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

Play hand

$0.02/$0.04 No-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)

Known players:
[tg]UTG1$6.34:///////;UTG2$3.88:///////;MP1 (Hero)$8.17:///////;MP2$4.07:///////;MP3$4.51:///////;CO$1.62:///////;BU$2.82:///////;SB$6.37:///////;BB$4.04:///////;UTG$3.94:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q:c, Q:d.
2 folds, UTG2 calls $0.04, Hero raises to $0.20, MP2 calls $0.20, 5 folds, UTG2 calls $0.16.

Flop: ($0.66) 5:c, 9:c, 9:s (3 players)
UTG2 checks, Hero bets $0.30, MP2 calls $0.30, UTG2 calls $0.30.

Turn: ($1.56) 9:h (1 players)
UTG2 checks,


martisPS
Joined: 14.04.2009

what do you think :]?

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;SB$2,01:56/11/5/1.3/57/0/-/50;Hero$2,07:///////;[/tg]
0,01/0,02 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Elephant.Base 0.98 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q♥, Q♦
3 folds, Hero raises to $0,08, 2 folds, SB calls $0,07, BB folds.

Flop: ($0,18) A♠, A♦, 4♦ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0,08, SB calls $0,08.

Turn: ($0,34) K♦ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($0,34) J♦ (2 players)
SB raises $1,85 (All-In), Hero calls $1,85.

Final Pot: $4,04

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows (Qh Qd)
SB shows a full-house, kings full of aces (Kh Kc)

SB wins with a full-house, kings full of aces (Kh Kc)


Hate4Fun
Joined: 26.03.2011

Known players:    
[tg]Hero$1,17:///////;UTG2$0,61:///////;MP3$0,35:///////;BU$0,5:///////;[/tg]
0,01/0,02 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Elephant.Base 0.99 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q♥, Q♣
UTG2 calls $0,02, 2 folds, MP3 calls $0,02, CO folds, BU raises to $0,04, SB folds, Hero raises to $0,18, UTG2 calls $0,16, MP3 folds, BU raises to $0,50 (All-In), Hero calls $0,32, UTG2 calls $0,32.

Flop: ($1,53) A♠, 9♠, 8♦ (2 players)
Hero raises $0,67 (All-In), UTG2 calls $0,11 (All-In), Hero gets uncalled bet back (All-In).

Turn: ($1,75) 2♠
River: ($1,75) 6♣ (3 players)

Final Pot: $1,75


cozacu
Joined: 14.02.2010

$0/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (4 handed)
villain 26/19 3bet 10.0 af 1.6 (90hands) but lately played very aggresive
Hand seriously miss-played but might teach us a good lesson

Known players:
BU = ($8.44)
BB = ($9.85)
MP3 (Hero) = ($12.17)
CO = ($19.69)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q :diamond:, Q :spade:.
Hero raises to $0.40, CO raises to $0.70, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.30.

Flop: ($1.5) 4 :club:, J :diamond:, 2 :spade: (2 players)
Hero bets $1.10, CO raises to $2.20, Hero raises to $4.40, CO calls $2.20.

Turn: ($10.3) T :spade: (2 players)
Hero bets $4.20, CO raises to $8.40, Hero calls $2.87.

River: ($25.77) J :heart: (2 players)

Final Pot: $25.77.


MrBrilliant
Joined: 01.02.2009

Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

Play hand

$0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

Known players:
[tg]SB$9.40:///////;BB (Hero)$11.10:///////;MP3$15.10:///////;CO$10.15:///////;BU$6.22:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q:s, Q:c.
MP3 raises to $0.35, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.91, MP3 calls $0.56.

Flop: ($1.87) 8:s, T:h, K:c (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks.

Turn: ($1.87) 4:h (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets $1.00, Hero calls $1.00.

River: ($3.87) 6:d (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets $1.93, Hero calls $1.93.

Final Pot: $7.73.

Results follow:

MP3 shows a pair of kings(Ad Ks).
Hero shows a pair of queens(Qs Qc).

MP3 wins with a pair of kings(Ad Ks).

stats:vpip 17 pfr 14 wts 27 agfactor 4.2 hands 7.3k


Rammie
Joined: 13.02.2011

Oliprof Stats: VPIP = 26%. PFR = 10%. 3BET = 6.7%. Steal = 17%. AF = 1.3. CBet = 67%. Fold to CBet = 25%

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (CO) ($2.79)
Button ($9.19)
SB ($9.90)
BB ($20.81)
UTG ($7.29)
UTG+1 ($7.65)
MP1 ($10)
MP2 ($18.42)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, Q
3 folds, MP2 calls $0.10, Hero bets $0.40, 3 folds, MP2 calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.95) 3, 9, 10 (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $0.60, MP2 raises $1.20, Hero raises $1.79 (All-In), MP2 calls $1.19

Turn: ($5.73) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($5.73) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $5.73


denilsonnick
Joined: 14.07.2010

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.30(BB) Replayer
SB ($30.15)
BB ($30)
UTG ($30)
UTG+1 ($30.19)
CO ($18.85)
Hero ($70.24)

Dealt to Hero Q♠ Q♣

fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.90, fold, Hero raises to $2.70, SB raises to $9.30, fold, fold, fold

SB wins $6.60

SB stats: 14/7 over 384 hands. 3b: 1.7%; 4b: 0% (4).


vengeance77
Joined: 18.04.2010

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.05(BB) Replayer
SB ($3.06)
BB ($1.80)
UTG ($4.06)
UTG+1 ($4.27)
UTG+2 ($8.26)
MP1 ($5)
Hero ($5)
BTN ($5.66) 40/23 with 8.5% 3bet

Dealt to Hero Q♣ Q♦

UTG calls $0.05, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.25, BTN raises to $0.65, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.40

FLOP ($1.42) A♠ Q♥ 3♦

Hero bets $0.70, BTN calls $0.70

TURN ($2.82) A♠ Q♥ 3♦ 9♠

Hero bets $1.90, BTN calls $1.90

RIVER ($6.62) A♠ Q♥ 3♦ 9♠ 7♥

Hero bets $1.75 (AI), BTN calls $1.75

Call or 4bet?


m4rc3lj
Joined: 14.03.2011

Full Tilt - $0.25 NL RUSH - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $29.18
SB: $9.67
BB: $21.10
UTG: $26.43
UTG+1: $69.77
MP: $25.00
MP+1: $34.34
Hero (LP): $10.00
CO: $69.59

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has Q♥ Q♣

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $1.50, fold, fold, SB calls $1.40, fold, MP+1 calls $1.00

Flop: ($4.75, 3 players) 4♣ 6♣ T♥
SB checks, MP+1 checks, Hero bets $3.50, fold, MP+1 calls $3.50

Turn: ($11.75, 2 players) 7♦
MP+1 checks, Hero bets $5.00 and is all-in, MP+1 calls $5.00

River: ($21.75, 2 players) 4♦

Spoiler

Hero shows Q♥ Q♣ (Two Pair, Queens and Fours) (PreFlop 83%, Flop 82%, Turn 0%)
MP+1 shows 8♥ 9♠ (Straight, Ten High) (PreFlop 17%, Flop 18%, Turn 100%)
MP+1 wins $20.67


denilsonnick
Joined: 14.07.2010

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.30(BB) Replayer
SB ($57.84)
BB ($65.25)
UTG ($30.45)
Hero ($39.34)
BTN ($38.57)

Dealt to Hero Q♥ Q♣

fold, Hero raises to $0.90, fold, SB calls $0.75, fold

FLOP ($2.10) 2♣ 8♥ J♥

SB checks, Hero bets $1.57, SB raises to $4.80 , Hero ??

Villain: 33/17/3.6 over 664 hands. Fold to CBet: 44%; Check/Raise Flop: 19% (27); Flop AF: 4.6


denilsonnick
Joined: 14.07.2010

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.30(BB) Replayer
SB ($42.11)
BB ($80.50)
UTG ($21.56)
UTG+1 ($7.62)
Hero ($30)
BTN ($47.82)

Dealt to Hero Q♥ Q♠

UTG calls $0.30, UTG+1 calls $0.30, Hero raises to $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, fold, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls $1.20

FLOP ($5.25) K♥ 9♥ J♥

UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $3.93, BTN raises to $46.32 (AI), UTG+1 calls $6.12 (AI) , Hero ???

BTN: 58/24/2.2 over 245 hands. Fold to CBet: 17%; Raise CBet: 30% (30);
MP: 34/4/0.4 over 96 hands.


CO: Vpp/Pfr/Steel/4bt /hands 12/12/25/ 0 / 112
Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Hero ($5.57)
SB ($3.39)
BB ($5.78)
UTG ($6.09)
UTG+1 ($5.07)
MP1 ($1.50)
MP2 ($1.92)
MP3 ($2.49)
CO ($5)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q♦, Q♠.
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.05, 2 folds, CO raises to $0.25, Hero raises to $0.65, SB calls $0.63, 1 fold, MP1 folds, CO raises to $2, Hero folds, SB calls $1.35.

Flop: ($4.75) 5♣, 7♣, Q♣ (2 players)
SB bets $1.39 (All-In), CO calls $1.39.

Turn: ($7.53) 5♥ (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($7.53) J♠ (2 players, 1 all-in)
.

Final Pot: $7.53


m4rc3lj
Joined: 14.03.2011

Full Tilt - $0.25 NL RUSH - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

LP: $4.50
CO: $15.93
BTN: $21.73
Hero (SB): $10.00
BB: $41.42
UTG: $27.65
UTG+1: $25.81
MP: $8.80
MP+1: $24.87

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has Q♣ Q♥

fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.60, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.75, fold, UTG+1 calls $1.15

Flop: ($3.75, 2 players) 5♣ 9♥ T♣
Hero bets $2.75, UTG+1 raises to $9.80, Hero calls $5.50 and is all-in

Turn: ($20.25, 2 players) A♥

River: ($20.25, 2 players) 6♦

Spoiler

UTG+1 shows K♣ A♣ (One Pair, Aces) (PreFlop 46%, Flop 51%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows Q♣ Q♥ (One Pair, Queens) (PreFlop 54%, Flop 49%, Turn 5%)
UTG+1 wins $19.24


AriGold1980
Joined: 22.05.2010

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
Hero ($12.30)
BB ($9.97)
UTG ($12.62)
UTG+1 ($17.79)
CO ($18.69)
BTN ($7.60)

Dealt to Hero Q♥ Q♦

fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.20, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1, fold, UTG+1 calls $0.80

FLOP ($2.10) 2♥ 8♥ J♥

Hero bets $1.57, UTG+1 calls $1.57

TURN ($5.24) 2♥ 8♥ J♥ K♠

Hero ??

Villain : 60/21/176 fold to 3bet : 13%