Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $10(BB) Replayer
SB ($975)
BB ($2,165)
UTG ($1,452)
CO ($3,697)
Hero ($1,711)
SB is a ok player and BB is a loose fish
Dealt to Hero 7♣ 8♣ 5♣ K♣
fold, fold, Hero raises to $35, SB raises to $115, BB calls $105, Hero calls $80
FLOP ($345) Q♣ 6♠ 4♠
SB bets $230, BB raises to $1,035, Hero?
I'm folding preflop first time around and snap folding this flop. We're crushed by a similar draw due to no pair/kicker and no flush draw.
Change it to a rainbow board and I'd say take a deep breath and shove.
Originally posted by 8412king
I agree postflop but think it is too nitty not open this hand from the button.
That depends entirely on how much SB and BB defends. Your hand isn't good enough once called so it's only a button raise if the blinds are both folding 50% of the time.
I'd also toss it to a reraise preflop, and if this gives the blinds more reason to 3 bet preflop, well that's a good thing for us on the button.
A straight is the nuts 10% of the time on the river in omaha, and a straight this low is unlikely, plus I don't like any of the full houses this hand can make so there really isn't that many opportunities to bet a hand this weak post flop and win a nice pot, which ultimately is our objective with PLO.
Originally posted by Ribbo
A straight is the nuts 10% of the time on the river in omaha, and a straight this low is unlikely, plus I don't like any of the full houses this hand can make so there really isn't that many opportunities to bet a hand this weak post flop and win a nice pot, which ultimately is our objective with PLO.
We don´t need the nuts all the time to win, especially not when we act last. Many of the nut hands are unlikely from what we now our opponent can have.
Making a straight with high cards is equally likely as with low cards. It is more important to see how connected the hand is and where the gaps are to see how many nut straight that are possible.
We don´t need the nuts all the time to win, especially not when we act last. Many of the nut hands are unlikely from what we now our opponent can have.
Making a straight with high cards is equally likely as with low cards. It is more important to see how connected the hand is and where the gaps are to see how many nut straight that are possible.
Your missing some important aspects.
1. We want to make the nuts so that we get paid. If the board is 4698Q for example it's hard to put a value bet in despite flopping a super strong hand. Likewise we pay off other players who have us beat at this point.
2. We need worse hands to pay us off. If we do have the nuts, say the flop is 764, can we expect someone to be playing 35xx and the board has to blank out pretty spectacularily to still have the nuts on the river. With KQ on a QJT flop it's a lot easier to have the nuts by the river.
3. Hitting 2 pair is quite bad for us, we have a lot of reverse implied odds with this, where we're paying off a higher 2 pair and people with sets a lot. At least with hands like AK when we hit 2 pair, we can dog a full house to suck out on a lower set.
Over all playing hands like this gets us into trouble as much as it's good for us being on the button. Now make your hand double suited and it's a whole different story, i'm just not a fan at all of what is in all intents and purposes an unsuited hand.
How do we play
876ss
765ss
654ss
987ss
and A* four unpaired and unconnected cards suits to the ACE
K* four unpaired cards unconnected cards suits to the King
I am talking about preflop action where we get into 3way action in position.
And where are our threshold for folding/calling?
